Sisterhood of the Rose organized a recent interview with Cobra about the importance of the upcoming Age of Aquarius Activation meditation on January 12th at 6:11 AM UTC.In this interview,they discuss why it is so important for as many people as possible to do this meditation at the same time,astrological configurations,the current financial situation,and the power of the divine feminine Goddess energy.
薔薇聖女團最近組織了一次對柯博拉的採訪，關於1月12日（北京時間：14:11）即將到來的水瓶座激活冥想時代重要性的採訪。在這次訪談中，他們討論了為什麼儘可能多的人同時進行這種冥想是如此重要，占星術的配置，當前的經濟狀況，以及神聖女神能量的力量。
Below is the recording and transcript of this interview.Times and instructions for the Age of Aquarius Activation meditation are at the end of this post.
以下是本次採訪的錄音和文字記錄。水瓶座時代激活冥想的時間和說明在本文的末尾。
視頻:https://youtu.be/QOrIUSdRvIA
Here is the transcript of the interview:
以下是採訪記錄:
—Beginning of transcript—
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DEBRA:Hello,I am Debra and I am leader of a Sisterhood of the Rose group in the United States.Today I have the pleasure of speaking with Cobra about our upcoming Age of Aquarius activation meditation taking place at 6:11 a.m.GMT on January 11th and 12th depending on your time zone.
DEBRA:你好，我是黛布拉，我是美國薔薇聖女團的組織者。今天我很高興與柯博拉談論我們即將到來的水瓶座激活冥想，這個冥想將在格林威治時間1月11日和12日早上6:11進行，具體時間取決於你所在的時區。
The Sisterhood of the Rose supports this meditation very much.We have many questions and things to discuss today to bring clarity and to emphasize the importance of as many people as possible doing this meditation.
薔薇聖女團非常支持這種冥想。我們今天有許多問題和事情要討論，以澄清和強調儘可能多的人做這個冥想的重要性。
So,let's get started.Welcome Cobra and thank you for doing this interview.
那麼，讓我們開始吧。歡迎 Cobra，感謝你接受我們的採訪。
COBRA:I think it is important to do this,and I hope everybody will join us because we have a real chance to create a breakthrough.
COBRA:我認為這樣做很重要，我希望每個人都能加入我們，因為我們有一個真正的機會來創造一個突破。
DEBRA:Absolutely!Yes,there are so many people excited.So you are calling this meditation the Age of Aquarius activation,with the intent to trigger the process that will lead us into the Age of Aquarius.But aren't we already in the Age of Aquarius?And what exactly is the Age of Aquarius?Is it the same as the Golden Age?
DEBRA:當然！是的，很多人都很興奮。所以你們把這個冥想稱為水瓶座時代的激活，意圖觸發這個過程，指導我們進入水瓶座時代。但是我們不是已經進入了水瓶座時代嗎？水瓶座時代到底是什麼？這和黃金時代一樣嗎？
COBRA:Coming from the Piscean Age into the Age of Aquarius is a process which takes many centuries.And right now we are at the peak of that transition.This is the purpose of this meditation,to trigger that,I would say,phase transition into the New Age.This Golden Age or the Age of Aquarius is something that many visionaries have seen throughout the centuries about the New Age that will come and will radically transform society on the surface of this planet and will actually be in a whole new cycle of evolution.This is what many have been expecting and it did not happen,it still did not happen,but right now we are at the moment where real change is increasingly becoming possible.
COBRA:從雙魚時代到水瓶時代是一個需要許多世紀的過程。現在我們正處於這種轉變的頂峰。這就是這個冥想的目的，來觸發，我想說，進入新時代的相變。這個黃金時代或水瓶座時代是許多空想家在過去幾個世紀中看到的關於新時代的東西，這個新時代將來臨並將從根本上改變這個星球表面的社會，實際上將進入一個全新的進化週期。這是許多人一直期待的，但是它沒有發生，它仍然沒有發生，但是現在我們正處在真正的改變變得越來越可能的時刻。
DEBRA:Wonderful!So to help people visualize,what kind of world will we be triggering with our meditation?Like what would a typical day in the Age of Aquarius look like?
DEBRA:太好了！那麼，為了幫助人們觀想，我們的冥想會觸發什麼樣的世界呢？就像水瓶座時代的典型一天是什麼樣子的？
COBRA:There are many differences between what society looks like now and how the society will look after the beginning of the Age of Aquarius.One of the major differences will be the vibrational frequency of the society which will be full of real love and real support and mutual understanding between people which is not present now.
COBRA:現在的社會形態和水瓶座時代開始後的社會形態有很多不同之處。其中一個主要的區別將是社會的振動頻率，這將充滿真正的愛和真正的支持，以及人與人之間的相互理解，而這些現在還沒有出現。
The other difference will be the awareness of the connection with your own Higher Self,with your own Soul.
另一個不同點將是意識到與你自己的更高自我，與你自己的靈魂的連接。
The third difference will be the widespread understanding that this whole Universe is a Living Being with many different races inhabiting many solar systems and there will be active contact between the earth civilization and other star races.This will be a common occurrence.
第三個區別將是廣泛的理解，這整個宇宙是一個生命存在，許多不同的種族居住在許多太陽系，地球文明和其他星球種族之間將有積極的聯繫。這將是一個常見的事件。
We will be joining galactic society,and average day will be completely different from what we are experiencing now.There will be no more need to struggle for survival to do regular jobs in the way you are experiencing now.There will be a completely new paradigm where you will be living each day according to your inner guidance and whatever is the highest purpose for every day,which might be completely different from one day to another.
我們將加入銀河社會，平均每天將完全不同於我們現在正在經歷的。不再需要像你們現在經歷的那樣為生存而掙扎，去做正常的工作。這將是一個全新的範例，你將根據你的內在指引和每天的最高目標生活每一天，這可能是完全不同的一天與另一天。
DEBRA:Wow!So is there a connection to the Age of Aquarius and Atlantis?Did people do mass meditations in Atlantis,and if they did,did it help change the course of events?
DEBRA:哇！那麼，這與水瓶座時代和亞特蘭蒂斯有聯繫嗎？人們在亞特蘭蒂斯做過大規模的冥想嗎?如果他們做了，這是否有助於改變事件的進程？
COBRA:Yes,actually Atlantis has three phases.The first phase of Atlantis was in the Pleiades.The second Atlantis was the one that Plato was talking about in the Atlantic Ocean,and the third one is the new Atlantis that we are arriving at.
COBRA:是的，實際上亞特蘭蒂斯有三個階段。亞特蘭蒂斯的第一階段是在昴宿星團。第二個亞特蘭蒂斯是柏拉圖在大西洋所說的那個，第三個是我們即將到達的新亞特蘭蒂斯。
In the second Atlantis,which was in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean,there were periods where life was quite similar to what we will be experiencing in the Golden Age and there were many people doing mass meditations.There was open contact with other star races,and this is something that will return.
在位於大西洋中部的第二個亞特蘭蒂斯，有些時期的生命與我們將要經歷的黃金時代非常相似，有許多人在做大規模的冥想。與其他明星種族有著公開的接觸，這是將會回歸的東西。
DEBRA:Okay,we are definitely looking forward to that!With this meditation,what effects would the average person experience if we achieve critical mass?And would they happen right away or with time?
DEBRA:好的，我們真的很期待！通過這種冥想，如果我們達到臨界質量，一般人會體驗到什麼樣的效果？它們會馬上發生還是隨著時間而發生？
COBRA:What will happen if we reach the critical mass is that we will shift the timeline.And timelines are like rivers.So now the river of planetary events is running into a certain direction and if we reach the critical mass,we will re-direct that river.
COBRA:如果我們達到臨界質量會發生什麼是我們將改變時間表。而時間線就像河流。所以現在行星事件的河流正在流向一個特定的方向，如果我們達到臨界質量，我們將重新指導這條河流。
First the effects will be small and barely noticeable,but with time this river,the change of direction will be quite significant and can actually determine how things will develop.For example,in the current timeline there is a war between Iran and the United States.In the new timeline,that war doesn't happen.That's just one example of how things can change.
首先，影響將是微小的，幾乎不可察覺，但隨著時間的推移，這條河流的方向變化將是相當重要的，可以實際上決定事情將如何發展。例如，在目前的時間線上，伊朗和美國之間發生了一場戰爭。在新的時間線裡，戰爭不會發生。這只是事情如何改變的一個例子。
And definitely at some point there will be drastic changes in the daily life of every individual on the surface of the planet if we manage to shift the timeline into a better one.
如果我們設法將時間線轉移到一個更好的時間線上，在地球表面的每個人的日常生活中，肯定會在某個時刻發生巨大的變化。
DEBRA:Wow,that in itself is motivation to do the meditation!And I have to ask,what can we expect to happen if we don't achieve critical mass for this meditation?
DEBRA:哇，這本身就是冥想的動力！我不得不問，如果我們不能達到這個冥想的臨界質量，我們將會發生什麼？
COBRA:If we don't achieve the critical mass,there will be no breakthrough.But still we will have significant impact on world events because for sure many people will join the meditation.But if we don't reach the critical mass,we will not have that fundamental shift of timelines.We will not have that massive improvement that we are hoping for.
COBRA:如果我們不能達到臨界質量，就不會有突破。但我們仍將對世界事件產生重大影響，因為肯定會有許多人加入冥想。但是如果我們沒有達到臨界質量，我們就不會有時間表的根本轉變。我們不會得到我們所希望的大規模改善。
DEBRA:So,it would have an effect,but it would just slow things down a little bit more than if we achieve critical mass.
DEBRA:所以，它會有一定的影響，但它只會讓事情慢下來一點點，比我們達到臨界質量要慢一點點。
COBRA:If we achieve critical mass,we can cut the waiting time quite significantly.If we don't reach the critical mass,we will just cut it very,very,very slightly.
COBRA:如果我們達到臨界質量，我們可以大大縮短等待時間。如果我們沒有達到臨界質量，我們將只是非常，非常，非常輕微地削減它。
DEBRA:I understand,yes.So now a few specifics about some of the things that you've posted about this meditation on your blog.You have said that"Meditation if it is done in the same moment with a large mass of people changes mass consciousness.Everything that is happening today is the sum of vectors of decisions of people on the planet.7.7 billion people making daily decisions.If we put a coherent signal for one moment in that whole lump of free will vectors we can change what happens."Can you explain a little bit more how this process works?
DEBRA:我明白，是的。現在在你的博客上貼出一些關於冥想的細節。你曾經說過，"如果冥想是在大量人群的同一時刻進行的，它會改變大眾的意識。今天所發生的一切都是這個星球上人們所做決定的矢量之和。77億人每天做決定。如果我們在整個自由意志向量中放入一個相干信號一會兒，我們就能改變發生的事情。"你能解釋一下這個過程是如何運作的嗎？
COBRA:We have as I said more than 7 billion people on the planet,and most of them are just blindly following the major vectors,which are the mass media,which are their financial situation.But there is a small number of people that are using their free will,and scientifically it is proven that there is a certain number of people that needs to be reached to influence the planetary situation and this number is the square root of two times the planetary population,which is right now around 120,000 people.But because not everybody is doing the meditation 100%efficiently,we are using this symbolic number of 144,000.So if that number of people meditates at the same space in time,it creates a coherent signal.It means a signal which is like a laser beam.And when you have a laser beam signal in the planetary consciousness field,you direct,you dictate,you drive the river of free will on the planet.You shift it into a certain direction,and if we are visualizing the Golden Age,this is the way we are shifting that river.
COBRA:正如我所說，這個星球上有超過70億人，他們中的大多數隻是盲目地追隨主要媒介，也就是他們的財務狀況。但是有一小部分人正在使用他們的自由意志，科學上已經證明，有一定數量的人需要被接觸來影響這個星球的情況，這個數字是2的算術平方根/人口乘以星球人口，現在大約有120,000人。但是因為不是每個人都能100%有效地進行冥想，所以我們使用這個象徵性的數字144,000。所以如果這個數字在同一時間在同一空間進行冥想，就會產生一個連貫的信號。它的意思是像激光束一樣的信號。當你在行星意識領域有一束激光信號時，你指揮、命令、驅動著這個星球上的自由意志之河。你把它轉移到一個特定的方向，如果我們想像黃金時代，這就是我們轉移那條河流的方式。
It is important to understand that we need to do this at exactly the same moment if you want to have a physical change;the physical plane is dictating with the laws of space and time.And if we want physical change,we need to do it at the exact same moment.
重要的是要明白，如果你想要有一個物理變化，我們需要在完全相同的時刻這樣做;物理平面正在支配著空間和時間的法則。如果我們想要物理上的改變，我們需要在完全相同的時刻做到。
This is why timing of this meditation is so critically important.It is very important that everybody does it at the same moment throughout the planet.If you do it two hours later you will not add to the critical mass.
這就是為什麼冥想的時機如此重要的原因。非常重要的是，全世界的每個人都在同一時刻這樣做。如果你在兩個小時後做這件事，你就不會增加臨界質量。
DEBRA:I am glad you made that point,because there is actually a science behind this that we are working with,as you said,the actual physical.So do these free will vectors interact with the plasma fields from the solar system?Is that what creates the resonance that changes the course of events?
DEBRA:我很高興你提出了這個觀點，因為正如你所說，這背後其實有一門科學，我們正在研究，實際的物理學。那麼，這些自由意志矢量是否與太陽系的等離子場相互作用呢？這就是改變事件進程的共鳴嗎？
COBRA:What is happening is basically that the plasma fields from the solar system influences the masses because the masses are not using their free will,they are just responding to tendencies.And I have explained in detail what are the astrological configurations at that time so people react to that.But if we use our free will to put a laser-like signal in that plasma interference pattern,we can dictate the outcome.We can actually shape the outcome towards the Golden Age.
COBRA:發生的事情基本上是太陽系的等離子場影響了大眾，因為大眾並沒有使用他們的自由意志，他們只是對趨勢做出反應。我已經詳細地解釋了當時的占星學構造，所以人們對此有所反應。但是如果我們用我們的自由意志把一個類似激光的信號放入等離子體干涉圖案中，我們就可以決定結果。我們實際上可以塑造黃金時代的結果。
DEBRA:So specifically,as it relates to what is going on the planet,how can this affect the financial markets or the exposure of the child abuse networks?
DEBRA:那麼具體來說，這個問題與地球上正在發生的事情有關，它會如何影響金融市場或者暴露虐待兒童的網絡？
COBRA:What will happen is if we put that signal into the grids at the moment where the plasma interference pattern is triggering the financial system,this is the moment where we can influence the financial system the greatest.We can actually start revealing all the irregularities in the system.If they can become part of the public common knowledge,and when this becomes part of the common public knowledge,the system needs to change.
COBRA:如果我們在等離子體干擾模式觸發金融系統的時候把這個信號輸入電網，這就是我們能夠對金融系統產生最大影響的時刻。我們實際上可以開始揭示系統中所有的不規則之處。如果他們能夠成為公眾常識的一部分，並且成為公眾常識的一部分，那麼這個系統就需要改變。
If we determine that we want to change it into a fair financial system,this where it will have to go according to the laws of physics.
如果我們決定要把它變成一個公平的金融體系，那麼它就必須按照物理定律去做。
DEBRA:I would like to address the child abuse—abuse of the child abuse networks that you mentioned too.So with these coming disclosures and others,you mentioned in a recent interview that people would become,and you used the words,"very,very,very angry".What can we do—obviously children are very much in the heart of the Sisterhood of the Rose—what can we do,all of us,to help soften and stabilize this situation or any other chaos that may occur?Can you explain how the energy of the Goddess can help with this?
DEBRA:我想談談你提到的虐待兒童網絡ーー虐待兒童網絡。因此，隨著這些即將到來的信息披露和其他信息披露，你在最近的一次採訪中提到，人們會變得，你用了"非常，非常，非常憤怒"這樣的詞。我們能做些什麼ーー很明顯，孩子們是薔薇聖女團的核心ーー我們能做些什麼，我們所有人，幫助緩和和穩定這種情況或任何其他可能發生的混亂？你能解釋一下女神的能量是如何幫助我們的嗎？
COBRA:Energy of the Goddess is the energy that brings balance,it brings harmony,it brings healing,and if as many people as possible channel that energy and transmit it into the planetary energy grid it will begin to calm down the surface population.And this is exactly what is needed for us to survive this transition intact and without too much violence.
COBRA:女神的能量是帶來平衡的能量，它帶來和諧，它帶來療愈，如果儘可能多的人將這種能量指導並傳輸到行星能量網絡，它將開始平靜地表的人口。這正是我們所需要的，這樣我們才能安然度過這個過渡期，避免太多的暴力。
Because this anger,the violence that is now suppressed,will be released,and it is actually a suppressed masculine principle,which can only be healed by the presence of awakened feminine principle.So the energy of the Goddess is the energy that can calm down people,that they will not start killing people randomly on the streets,but they will rather take informed and enlightened action.
因為這種憤怒，現在被壓抑的暴力，將會被釋放，它實際上是一種被壓抑的男性原則，只有在覺醒的女性原則的存在下，才能被治癒。所以女神的能量是能讓人們平靜下來的能量，他們不會開始在街上隨意殺人，但是他們寧願採取知情和開明的行動。
DEBRA:Good,okay and I'd like to speak a little later too more about some of the divine feminine as well.But let's continue a little bit where we were.How will exposing the child abuse networks force the black nobility families to give up control?
DEBRA:好的，好的，我也想稍後再談一些關於神聖女性的話題。但是讓我們繼續我們剛才說到的地方。揭露虐童網絡將如何迫使黑色貴族家族放棄控制？
COBRA:It will not force them to give up control,this is just the first phase.So when there is enough awareness among the surface population about the existence of child abuse,and the extent of child abuse,it will be harder and harder for those people to hide behind their masks.It is a matter of exposure,and when exposure reaches the critical mass,when there is enough exposure in the consciousness field of humanity,then the Light Forces can take physical action and arrest those people.
COBRA:這不會強迫他們放棄控制，這只是第一階段。因此，當地表上的人們對虐待兒童的存在以及虐待兒童的程度有足夠的認識時，這些人就會越來越難以隱藏在他們的面具後面。這是一個暴露的問題，當暴露達到臨界質量，當人類的意識領域有足夠的暴露，那麼光明勢力可以採取實際行動並逮捕這些人。
DEBRA:So you are suggesting people to help expose some of this Truth.
DEBRA:所以你是在建議人們幫助揭露一些真相。
COBRA:All of this Truth.
COBRA:所有這些真相。
DEBRA:Right.There have been recent issues with a lot of the social media shutting down accounts,and there's been something on Twitter about how you can be subpoenaed for certain information.Do you feel it is safe for us to really speak our Truth,or The Truth,on some of those social media platforms?
DEBRA:對。最近有很多社交媒體關閉賬戶的問題，Twitter 上也有一些關於如何獲取某些信息的傳票。你覺得我們在一些社交媒體平台上真正說出我們的真相或真相是安全的嗎？
COBRA:What you need to understand is that we are in a war,and in a war nothing is safe.It is a matter of making choices,personal choices.I will not force anybody to do anything against their will,but I would say that those people need to be exposed.It is time.
COBRA:你需要明白的是，我們正處於一場戰爭中，在戰爭中沒有什麼是安全的。這是一個做出選擇的問題，個人的選擇。我不會強迫任何人做任何違背他們意願的事情，但我要說，這些人需要被曝光。是時候了。
DEBRA:Yes,yes.And of course,you have given us protection protocols to use as well,which should be used daily.Let's get back to the timing of this meditation because it is so important.You keep bringing up how important it is.Why do we work with these astrological configurations?And what do they do?Do they open a doorway to the Light Forces to help us?
DEBRA:對，對。當然，你們也給了我們一些保護協議來使用，這些協議應該每天使用。讓我們回到這個冥想的時間，因為它是如此重要。你一直在說這有多重要。為什麼我們要研究這些占星學的結構？他們是做什麼的？他們是否打開了光明勢力幫助我們的大門？
COBRA:Those astrological configurations,as I said,they are plasma interference patterns throughout the solar system,and when there is a very powerful astrological configuration,whatever happens at that moment is magnified many times.
COBRA:我說過，那些星象圖是整個太陽系的等離子體干擾圖案，當有一個非常強大的星象圖案時，那一刻發生的任何事情都會被放大許多倍。
So if we have a laser-like signal,right at that moment,it becomes magnified many times.And this particular configuration is very favorable towards exposure.So this Saturn-Pluto conjunction actually can expose a lot.It can expose more than most of the other configurations,and we have a very explosive mix of planets joining up together and important cycles ending and new cycles beginning.So we are at the exact insertion point where this New Age can begin to happen.
所以如果我們有一個類似激光的信號，就在那一刻，它會被放大很多倍。這種特殊的結構非常有利於曝光。所以土星與冥王星的合相實際上可以暴露很多東西。它可以暴露比大多數其他配置，我們有一個非常爆炸性的混合行星結合在一起，重要的週期結束和新的週期開始。因此，我們正處於新時代開始發生的準確插入點。
DEBRA:Right.I am going to quote something you said in your blog."First there will be a penumbral lunar eclipse on January 10th,creating a very tense and rigid energy pattern.Then on January 11th,both Uranus and Eris will turn direct,this will release a lot of previously suppressed planetary kundalini energy.January 11th is a very powerful timeline day and in the last few decades there four powerful events that took place on January 11th that changed the destiny of this planet.Two of those I can mention,the opening of the doorway on 11/11 on January 11th,1992 and the archon invasion of January 11th,1996.Then on January 12th,we will have an extremely powerful Saturn and Pluto conjunction that will crack the global financial system open",which you just mentioned.
DEBRA:對。我要引用你在博客上說的一些話。"首先，1月10日將出現半影月食，形成一種非常緊張和僵硬的能量模式。然後在1月11日，天王星和厄裡斯都將轉向直接，這將釋放許多之前被抑制的行星昆達里尼能量。1月11日是一個非常強大的時間線日，在過去的幾十年裡，發生了四個強大的事件，改變了這個星球的命運。其中兩個我可以提到，1992年1月11日11月11日（註：11點11分）門口打開和1996年1月11日執政官入侵。然後在1月12日，我們將有一個非常強大的土星和冥王星合相，將打破全球金融系統的開放"，你剛才提到。
With all of this going on that weekend,why is it that this meditation is taking place(for a lot of us here in the USA it is on the night of the 11th),why that particular time out of all the aspects that are happening over the weekend?Why was that time selected?
所有這一切都發生在那個週末，為什麼這個冥想會發生(對於我們在美國的很多人來說是在11號晚上)，為什麼這個特定的時間在週末發生的所有方面之外？為什麼選擇這個時間？
COBRA:The Light Forces have selected that particular time to have the maximum number of people meditating globally.They are not just looking at the United States.They are taking into account especially the people in Asia.There are very strong meditation groups in China and in other countries in Asia and throughout the planet.This particular time is expected to have the most effect on the energy grid situation and the maximum number of people meditating.
COBRA:光明勢力已經選擇了這個特定的時間來讓全世界最多的人進行冥想。他們不僅僅關注美國。他們特別考慮到了亞洲人民。在中國和亞洲其他國家以及整個地球上都有很強大的冥想團體。這個特定的時間預計會對能量網格狀況和冥想的最大人數產生最大的影響。
DEBRA:Does it have to do with the one or the eleven,or the 11:11?Here in the U.S.what we talk about is"wow,it's 1:11 my time,or 11:11 my time."Does any of that energy come into play?
DEBRA:
它與1、11、或11:11有關嗎？在美國，我們談論的是"哇，我的時間是1:11，或者11:11。"這些能量有沒有起作用呢？
COBRA:Yes,also.
COBRA:是的，也是。
DEBRA:You mentioned too in this report that the lunar eclipse on January 10th would create a very tense and rigid energy pattern.How will this affect us,and do we need to do anything to prepare or protect ourselves that day?
DEBRA:你在這份報告中也提到過，1月10日的月食會造成一種非常緊張和僵化的能量模式。這將如何影響我們，我們需要做什麼準備或保護自己的那一天？
COBRA:Just be aware that there will be strong energies triggered.There might be a lot of entities flying around the astral plane.There might be a lot of pressure.There might be shocking news in the media,anything of that nature.Just stay calm and centered and focused.
COBRA:只是要知道將會有強大的能量被觸發。可能有許多實體圍繞星界飛行。可能會有很大的壓力。媒體上可能會有令人震驚的新聞，任何這種性質的東西。保持冷靜，集中注意力。
DEBRA:Thank you!You also mentioned a Synodic Cycle and you said there would be thirteen of them starting in 2020.So first of all what is a Synodic Cycle and what is the significance of thirteen of them?
DEBRA:謝謝！你還提到了一個會合週期，你說從2020年開始會有十三個。那麼，首先什麼是會合週期，其中十三個週期的意義是什麼？
COBRA:A Synodic Cycle is a cycle where two planets actually meet if you look from the center of the Sun.So if you would be right now at the Sun and you would look at the planets,when two planets conjunct or they come together when they meet,it is called a Synod.And when planets move in their orbits around the solar system,there is a certain period between the first and second meeting of the same planet and this is called a Synodic Cycle.And in this year,we have thirteen of them.I would say thirteen more significant ones,where an average year you just have one or two.
COBRA:如果你從太陽的中心看，兩個行星實際上在一個會合週期中相遇。如果你現在看著太陽，你會看著行星，當兩顆行星合相，或者當它們相遇時，它們聚集在一起，這叫做會合週期。當行星在它們圍繞太陽系的軌道上運行時，在同一顆行星的第一次和第二次相遇之間有一個特定的週期，這就是所謂的一個週期。今年，我們有13個。我想說的是13個更重要的會合週期，平均每年你只有一兩個。
So this just stresses the importance of this year.What is also interesting is that I would say four or five of those cycles are happening on that weekend between January 10th and 13th.
所以這只是強調了今年的重要性。同樣有趣的是，我認為其中的四五個週期發生在1月10日到13日之間的那個週末。
DEBRA:Oh wow,I didn't realize that.So that is pretty powerful!You said that gold was taken to the U.S.in 1996 and used to finance underground bases to prepare for the Draco invasion in 1996.Is there a connection between the invasion on January 11th of 1996 and what will happen on this January 11th meditation and the Age of Aquarius activation?
DEBRA:哦，哇，我都沒意識到。因此，這是非常強大的！你說黃金在1996年被運到美國，用於資助地下基地，為1996年德拉科入侵做準備。1996年1月11日的入侵和1月11日的冥想和水瓶座時代的激活之間有什麼聯繫嗎？
COBRA:Okay,I never said the gold was taken to the United States in 1996.The gold was taken after World War II to the United States,and then it was underwriting the trading programs which were secret,and this money generated through those trading programs went to finance the building of underground military bases which were built extensively since 1946 and 1947.This network of underground bases was completed in 1995 and the Draco invasion was triggered on January 11th of 1996.
COBRA:好的，我從沒說過黃金是在1996年運到美國的。這些黃金在第二次世界大戰後被運往美國，然後被用來支持那些秘密的交易項目，這些交易項目所產生的資金被用來資助地下軍事基地的建設，這些基地自1946年和1947年以來一直廣泛建設。這一地下基地網絡於1995年完成，德拉科入侵於1996年1月11日觸發。
Now we are here twenty-four years later,when we are actively reversing that trend.We are ending that invasion.
現在，24年過去了，我們正在積極扭轉這一趨勢。我們要結束這場入侵。
DEBRA:And we are doing that through this meditation,or just with all of the incoming Light that is coming in?
DEBRA:我們是通過這個冥想來達到這個目的，還是僅僅通過所有即將到來的光？
COBRA:I would say the Light Forces have been working actively since 1996 to counteract that invasion and now we are reaching a certain point where the efforts of the Light Forces will become visible and we are marking this with our meditation,with our activation.
COBRA:我想說，光明勢力自1996年以來一直在積極工作，以抵禦入侵，現在我們正在達到一個特定的點，光明勢力的努力將變得可見，我們正在以我們的冥想和我們的激活來標記這一點。
DEBRA:Are you yet able to say what the other two January 11th events that changed the destiny of this planet?
DEBRA:你還能說出另外兩件改變這個星球命運的1月11日事件嗎？
COBRA:No.
COBRA:不能。
DEBRA:Okay,had to ask!You also mentioned that"The trading week between January 13thand 17th is the time of greatest probability that the situation in the financial markets will burst into a full crisis.The astrological chart of the opening of the New York Stock Exchange on Monday,January 13th,at 9:30 am EST shows a powerful exact quadruple Sun–Saturn–Pluto–Ceres conjunction with Saturn actually behind the sun."Can you say more about this and how we can expect mass consciousness in the United States to be affected?Why the focus on the New York Stock Exchange?
DEBRA:好的，我得問問！你還提到，"1月13日至17日的交易周是金融市場爆發全面危機的最大可能時間。1月13日星期一，美國東部標準時間上午9:30，紐約證券交易所開盤的占星圖顯示，太陽-土星-冥王星-穀神星與土星實際上是在太陽背後的四重合
關於這個問題，你能說得更多一些嗎?我們可以期待美國的大眾意識會受到怎樣的影響？為什麼關注紐約證券交易所？
COBRA:New York is a financial center of planetary importance.We have J.P.Morgan Headquarters there,the New York Stock Exchange is there,the New York Fed is there,so these are three major institutions that dictate how this worldwide financial crisis will unravel.
COBRA:紐約是全球重要的金融中心。我們的摩根大通總部在那裡，紐約證券交易所在那裡，紐約聯邦儲備銀行在那裡，所以這三個主要機構決定了全球金融危機如何解決。
And it is interesting to note that the opening moment of the New York Stock Exchange happens exactly at the peak astrological influence of that quadruple conjunction,so it will be a very powerful moment.And it is not possible to say what will happen.We are speaking about probabilities.We cannot see the future,but we can see the trends,we can see the cycles,and that week will be very interesting.
有趣的是，紐約證券交易所的開盤時刻正好發生在四重連接的占星術影響的高峰期，所以這將是一個非常強大的時刻。而且我們不可能說會發生什麼。我們說的是概率。我們看不到未來，但我們可以看到趨勢，我們可以看到週期，那一週將會非常有趣。
DEBRA:It sounds like it!Cobra,is this meditation energetically related to the Silver Trigger meditation we did on 11/11 of last year?If so how?Is there a connection through the"1"and the"11"energies of these two days?
DEBRA:聽起來是這樣！柯博拉，這個冥想與我們去年11月11日做的銀觸發冥想有關嗎？如果是這樣，怎麼做？這兩天的"1"和"11"能量之間有聯繫嗎？
COBRA:Actually the meditation on the 11th of November was preparation for this one.It was a plan of the Light Forces to do them one after the other.What is interesting to note is that the meditation on the 11th of November had Sun–Mercury conjunction,actually a Sun–Mercury transit,and Mercury is returning back to the Sun on January 11th of this year.So these two months,Mercury did a certain loop which brought him back to the Sun,which is again putting a spotlight on the global financial system again.
COBRA:事實上，11月11日的冥想是為這一次做準備的。這是一個光的力量一個接一個的計劃。有趣的是，11月11日的冥想有太陽-水星連接，實際上是太陽-水星過境，而水星將在今年1月11日重返太陽
DEBRA:Right,so it did a whole loop,that's interesting.What happened on this planet the last time we had such a strong astrological configuration?Back at the Grand Cross Eclipse on August 11th,1999.
DEBRA:是的，所以它做了一整個循環，這很有趣。上一次我們擁有如此強大的星相結構時，在這個星球上發生了什麼？回到1999年8月11日的大十字月食。
COBRA:On August 11th,1999,a huge interdimensional portal opened which actually reversed the trend of the Draco invasion.Between 1996 and 1999,the Dark Forces were just attacking the planet,coming here and gaining power.This powerful stargate reversed the trend,so since then they are losing power.This was visible two years later,and the 9/11,which they engineered,was not a sign of strength,it was a sign of their weakness and desperation—because always when they do something so visible,so easily noticeable,it means that they are desperate.
COBRA:1999年8月11日，一個巨大的跨維度入口打開了，實際上扭轉了德拉科入侵的趨勢。在1996年到1999年間，黑暗勢力正在攻擊這個星球，來到這裡並獲得力量。這個強大的星際之門扭轉了這種趨勢，所以從那時起他們就失去了能量。兩年後，這一切都顯而易見，他們策劃的9/11事件並不是力量的標誌，而是他們軟弱和絶望的標誌ーー因為當他們做一些如此顯而易見、如此容易被注意到的事情時，這意味著他們絶望了。
They understood at some point people would be investigating and everything would come out,so they had no option.It means that they started to lose the war,the Galactic War,in 1999.
他們明白，在某種程度上，人們會進行調查，一切都會水落石出，所以他們別無選擇。這意味著他們在1999年開始輸掉銀河戰爭。
DEBRA:So is our Age of Aquarius meditation related energetically to that astrological event in 1999?
DEBRA:那麼我們的水瓶座時代的冥想與1999年的占星術事件有關嗎？
COBRA:Yes,we are beginning to write the last chapter of this galactic saga.
COBRA:是的，我們正在開始寫這個銀河傳奇的最後一章。
DEBRA:Okay,the very last chapter?
DEBRA:好的，最後一章？
COBRA:The last one.
COBRA:最後一個。
DEBRA:Alright,good!I want to talk a little bit about the financial reset.People seem to be confused about this because in the past you have said that the financial reset would only happen at the time of the Event,and yet now there is talk about it happening prior to the Event.So can you update us on what is going on with that?
DEBRA:好的，很好！我想談談關於金融重置的一些問題。人們似乎對此感到困惑，因為在過去你曾經說過財務重置只會在事件發生的時候才會發生，而現在有人在事件發生之前談論它的發生。你能告訴我們這是怎麼回事嗎？
COBRA:What is happening in the Light Forces are favoring a gradual dismantling of the old financial system because they realize an abrupt crash would create too many problems,primarily because people are not ready,people have not done their homework and there is not enough consciousness on the surface of the planet.The support grid of Lightworkers is far too weak to sustain the energies of an abrupt financial crash.
COBRA:正在發生的光明勢力傾向於逐步拆除舊的金融系統，因為他們意識到突然的崩潰會造成太多的問題，主要是因為人們還沒有準備好，人們還沒有做好他們的功課，在這個星球的表面上沒有足夠的意識。光之工作者的支持網絡太過脆弱，無法承受突然的財政崩潰所帶來的能量。
So what will happen will be a gradual dismantling of the old system which will be identically triggered with this Age of Aquarius activation.And this dismantling will take a certain amount of time which will culminate in the final reset.
因此，所發生的將是舊系統的逐漸拆除，這將同樣地被這個水瓶座時代的活躍所觸發。這種拆除將需要一定的時間，這將最終在最後的複位。
DEBRA:Okay.You recently asked us to do a meditation every four-hours to stabilize the financial system,especially Deutsche Bank until we did the Age of Aquarius meditation and you also said that the collapse of the Deutsche Bank is predicted to happen around January 15th.So what is the particular reason why it was important to delay this collapse of Deutsche Bank at this time;is that so there would not be this chaotic crash that you just talked about?
DEBRA:好。你最近要求我們每四個小時做一次冥想，以穩定金融體系，特別是德意志銀行，直到我們做了水瓶時代的冥想，你還說德意志銀行的崩潰預計將發生在1月15日左右。那麼，為什麼在這個時候推遲德意志銀行的崩潰是如此重要呢?是因為這樣就不會出現你剛才提到的這場混亂的崩潰嗎？
COBRA:A few things here…The first one is there is a faction of the cabal that wanted to hard crash the system and then introduce electronic money with total control.And this is what this meditation was preventing.Their plan was to implement this on the 1st of January this year,and as you can see,this did not happen.Their plan failed,which is good.And this was the main reason why this meditation was taking place and is still necessary for a few days.
COBRA:這裡有一些事情...第一是有一個陰謀集團，他們想硬崩潰系統，然後引進完全控制的電子貨幣。這就是冥想所阻止的。他們的計劃是在今年1月1日實施這一計劃，正如你所看到的，這並沒有發生。他們的計劃失敗了，這是好事。這就是為什麼冥想會發生的主要原因，並且在接下來的幾天裡仍然是必要的。
It is not just about Deutsche Bank.It is also about the whole financial system.I am not saying Deutsche Bank will collapse on January 15,it is just,I would say,the peak of the cycle.What exactly will happen nobody knows.
這不僅僅是關於德意志銀行。這也關係到整個金融體系。我並不是說德意志銀行(Deutsche Bank)將在1月15日破產，我只是說，這是週期的頂峰。到底會發生什麼沒有人知道。
DEBRA:Well,a lot of it depends on what takes place that weekend in terms of our collective consciousness.
DEBRA:嗯，很大程度上取決於我們的集體意識在那個週末發生了什麼。
COBRA:Exactly.
COBRA:沒錯。
DEBRA:Is Fulford accurate when he says the USA needs to be bankrupted in order to get rid of the debt-based economy?
DEBRA:富爾福德說美國需要破產才能擺脫債務為基礎的經濟，他的話準確嗎？
COBRA:I would say the U.S.government,and this whole debt-bubble.needs to be collapsed.That's the start of the financial reset.Not just the United States but worldwide.All this will be collapsed.But as I said before,this collapse will be gradual,it will be more of a dismantling not a sudden shock,because a sudden shock the surface population would not be able to absorb it.People would experience hardships that are not necessary.
COBRA:我要說的是美國聯邦政府，還有整個債務泡沫。需要倒塌。這是金融重置的開始。不僅僅是美國，而是全世界。所有這一切都將崩潰。但正如我之前所說，這種崩潰將是漸進的，它將更多地是一種分解，而不是突然的衝擊，因為突然的衝擊地表口將無法吸收它。人們會經歷不必要的困難。
DEBRA:Right,we don't need any more of that on the planet.So it would be more of a gentle,softer,slower crash.
DEBRA:對，我們在這個星球上不需要更多的那種東西了。因此，它更像是一次溫和、柔和、緩慢的撞擊。
COBRA:I would not say gentle,but I would say not as brutal as it would be with a hard crash.
COBRA:我不會說溫和，但我會說不會像硬碰撞那樣殘忍。
DEBRA:Okay.Let me ask you,how is it going with the struggle between the two black nobility factions over whether they will have a debt-based or social credit-based financial system?What would it take for them to give up control so that we finally have a fair financial system?
DEBRA:好的。讓我問問你，兩個黑色貴族派系之間的鬥爭進展如何，他們將擁有一個以債務為基礎還是以社會信用為基礎的金融體系？怎樣才能讓他們放棄控制權，讓我們最終擁有一個公平的金融體系？
COBRA:I have said before the faction that wants to have electronic on-line social score banking system has lost quite much power over the New Year.There was a lot of in-fighting going on,a lot of so-called negotiations,and now the faction which is still promoting the debt-slavery financial system that we currently have now is gaining power—but the Light Forces are also gaining power,and we will get the upper hand and the system will be crashed on our terms,not theirs.
COBRA:我之前已經說過，希望擁有電子在線社交分數銀行系統的派別在新年期間失去了相當大的權力。當時有很多內鬥，很多所謂的談判，現在仍在推動我們目前擁有的債務奴役金融體系的派別正在獲得權力ーー但是光明勢力也在獲得權力，我們將佔據上風，這個體系將按照我們的條件崩潰，而不是他們的條件崩潰。
DEBRA:Okay,good.Who or what are backing these Black Nobility families energetically?
DEBRA:好的，很好。是誰或者什麼在積極支持這些黑色貴族家族？
COBRA:There is the Chimera group from the plasma plane,there are many reptilian and Draco entities on the plasma plane and etheric plane,and they are working in unison.I would say the top occultists in the Black Nobility families have direct contact with those entities,are invoking them in their rituals,are channeling them,and they will be actually also doing rituals during that weekend.They want to do their own thing.
COBRA:在等離子平面上有一個奇美拉群體，在等離子平面和以太平面上有許多爬行動物和天龍實體，它們在一起工作。我會說黑色貴族家族的神秘術士，與這些實體有直接接觸，在他們的儀式中召喚他們，指導他們，他們實際上也會在那個週末舉行儀式。他們想做自己的事情。
DEBRA:Right,which is one of the very important reasons that the Lightworkers need to do their own rituals so to speak to counteract a lot of that.
DEBRA:是的，這是光之工作者需要舉行他們自己的儀式的一個非常重要的原因，可以說是為了抵消很多這樣的儀式。
COBRA:We will bring the Light in,we don't need to fight with them.We just bring the Light and the Light will do whatever needs to be done.
COBRA:我們會帶來光明，我們不需要和他們戰鬥。我們只是帶來了光，而光會做任何需要做的事情。
DEBRA:Absolutely!So it's obviously important to put our focused attention on the Age of Aquarius meditation at the time we are doing it at,but also throughout the entire weekend.I would say that it would be very important to beef up your meditation over those several days.
DEBRA:當然！所以當我們在做冥想的時候，把注意力集中在水瓶座時代的冥想上顯然是很重要的，當然也要貫穿整個週末。我想說，在這幾天里加強你的冥想是非常重要的。
So let me get back to the financial situation just a little bit more.What is China preparing for with its gold?
那麼讓我們再回到財務狀況上來。中國準備用黃金做什麼？
COBRA:Yes,China,and Russia also,are collecting gold because after the reset,gold will partially underwrite a new financial system.Gold will back partially the new financial system and China and Russia,and also some other countries,are actively preparing for that.
COBRA:是的，中國和俄羅斯也在收集黃金，因為在重新設定後，黃金將部分承保一個新的金融體系。黃金將在一定程度上支持新的金融體系，中國、俄羅斯以及其他一些國家正在積極為此做準備。
DEBRA:Okay.And I know we touched upon this a little bit,but I think I would really like to drive this point in so that people can understand the importance of this January 11th&12thmeditation.Can you share with us what a hard crash or a financial reset that the Dark Forces will try when they are using this astrological configuration?What would a hard crash look like?
DEBRA:好的。我知道我們稍微談到了這一點，但是我想我真的很想強調這一點，這樣人們就能理解1月11日和12日冥想的重要性。你能和我們分享一下黑暗勢力在使用這種星相配置時會嘗試什麼樣的硬崩潰或財務重置嗎？硬崩潰會是什麼樣子？
COBRA:First,I need to say this,the hard crash scenario that the Dark Forces are planning is extremely unlikely to happen.But if it would happen,the banks would close immediately,the distribution chain would be disturbed,people would start losing access to food,electricity,there would be riots on a mass scale,and then as you probably know the dark ones will strive to implement martial law and would use this as an excuse to completely tighten the control over the surface population.I think I don't need to go further into that.
COBRA:首先，我需要說明的是，黑暗勢力正在計劃的硬崩潰場景是極不可能發生的。但是如果它發生了，銀行會立即關閉，分配鏈會被打亂，人們會開始失去獲得食物和電力的途徑，會有大規模的騷亂，然後你可能知道黑暗勢力會努力實施戒嚴法，並會以此作為藉口來完全加強對地表人口的控制。我想我不需要再深入討論這個問題了。
DEBRA:Right,okay.Let's not put any attention or energy toward that option or possibility.As you said,it is very unlikely that would happen.
DEBRA:好的，好的。讓我們不要把任何注意力或精力放在那個選項或可能性上。正如你所說，這種情況不太可能發生。
I have to ask this because some people are worried about things like that.Are there indicators that things might go badly as they did in Germany in the 1930s when the banks collapsed and inflation got so out of control that a loaf of bread cost$100 and people turned to the Nazis to stabilize the country.Is there a possibility this could happen in the U.S.or Germany in 2020,or as you just said,it's quite unlikely?
我不得不問這個問題，因為有些人擔心這樣的事情。有沒有跡象表明，情況可能會像上世紀30年代的德國那樣糟糕，當時銀行破產，通貨膨脹失去控制，一塊麵包花了100美元，人們求助於納粹來穩定國家。2020年美國或德國是否有可能出現這種情況，或者正如你剛才所說，這種可能性很小？
COBRA:Okay,hard crash is not just hyperinflation.A hard crash is when the banks close,when the shops close,when the distribution chain gets disturbed.We also have a melt-down option which is like hyperinflation,problems with employment,banks working sporadically,huge financial crashes worldwide,something that was experience in the 1930s,and that IS possible for a certain period of time.
COBRA:好的，硬崩潰不僅僅是惡性通貨膨脹。硬崩潰是當銀行關門，商店關門，分銷鏈受到干擾時。我們還有一個崩潰的選擇，就像惡性通貨膨脹，就業問題，銀行零星運轉，世界範圍內的巨大金融崩潰，這是上世紀30年代的經驗，在一定時期內這是可能的。
DEBRA:Okay.With especially what's happening recently with the whole war thing,people are talking about World War III and all of that,are the Dark Forces planning to crash the global economy and then pull us out of it with a global war economy and reduction of the population the way they did in World War II?
DEBRA:好的。尤其是最近發生的整個戰爭事件，人們正在談論第三次世界大戰和所有這一切----黑暗勢力是否計劃破壞全球經濟，然後用全球戰爭經濟和減少人口的方式把我們拉出來，就像他們在第二次世界大戰中做的那樣？
COBRA:This is a scenario I was describing just before.
COBRA:這是我之前描述的情景。
DEBRA:So,basically no.All right.
DEBRA:所以，基本上沒有。
COBRA:I mean they have a plan,but this plan has been counteracted so many times already and it is extremely unlikely that they will be able to pull this off.
COBRA:我的意思是他們有一個計劃，但是這個計劃已經被抵消了很多次，他們能夠實現這個計劃的可能性極小。
DEBRA:Can you offer a little more insight into what kind of financial reset the Light Forces are orchestrating.You said it was going to be softer.How would the everyday person experience that?
DEBRA:你能不能透露一點，光明勢力正在策劃什麼樣的財政重置。你說過會更柔和的。日常生活中的人們會怎樣經歷這些呢？
COBRA:You mean the Light Forces version of the financial reset?
COBRA:你是說光明勢力版本的財務重置？
DEBRA:Yes.
DEBRA:是的。
COBRA:Okay,there will be a few things happening.The first thing will be exposure of the financial machinations of all the wrong-doings through the mass media.Big scandals.And there will be melt-downs of the larger banks which includes Deutsche Bank and J.P.Morgan.Many larger banks will have to go bankrupt,but it will be a controlled situation and the huge restructuring of the rules of the financial system.This is a process that can take quite some time but will be quite intense and quite dramatic.It is not expected that this will always go smoothly.There will be many shocks that are not avoidable.It is not possible to completely make this a smooth transition.But what we are trying to prevent are the hardest scenarios.
COBRA:好的，會有一些事情發生。第一件事將是通過大眾媒體揭露所有錯誤行為的金融陰謀。大醜聞。包括德意志銀行(deutschebank)和摩根大通(J.P.Morgan)在內的大型銀行也將面臨融資危機。許多大型銀行將不得不破產，但這將是一個受控的局面，也是對金融體系規則的大規模重組。這是一個過程，可能需要相當長的時間，但將是相當強烈和相當戲劇性的。預計這不會總是一帆風順。會有許多無法避免的衝擊。這是不可能完全使這一平穩過渡。但是我們正在努力避免的是最困難的情況。
DEBRA:Right,absolutely.Will there be any type of a jubilee?
DEBRA:是的，當然。會有什麼類型的慶典嗎？
COBRA:At the moment of the reset,yes.
COBRA:在複位的那一刻，是的。
DEBRA:So what things specifically can we visualize happening in the financial system so that we can help to have this smooth financial reset?
DEBRA:那麼，我們可以想像金融系統中發生了什麼特別的事情，這樣我們就可以幫助這個順利的金融重置？
COBRA:You can visualize a smooth transition;you can visualize this system being transformed into a new system that is fair to everybody.That is the basic goal.
COBRA:你可以想像一個平穩的過渡;你可以想像這個系統正在轉變成一個對每個人都公平的新系統。這是最基本的目標。
DEBRA:Okay,because that will help during the meditation in terms of what we want to visualize.You have said a lot before about how to prepare physically for the reset by stocking up on two-weeks worth of supplies,but how can we best prepare ourselves spiritually for the reset?How can we help mainstream folks who are likely to be in a state of shock as well as being caught without supplies?
DEBRA:好的，因為這會幫助我們在冥想中想像什麼。你之前已經說了很多關於如何通過儲備兩週的補給來準備身體上的重置，但是我們如何在精神上為重置做最好的準備呢？我們怎樣才能幫助那些可能處於震驚狀態的主流人群呢？
COBRA:The first thing that is the most important is to get in contact with your inner guidance.And you can get in contact with your inner guidance by practicing following inner guidance,and not neglecting inner guidance.And inner guidance will sometimes guide you through situations where it is not comfortable for your belief system or for the belief systems of those around you.So it is a matter of practice.
COBRA:最重要的第一件事是接觸到你的內在指引，你可以通過練習遵循內在指引來接觸到你的內在指引，不要忽視內在的引導，內在的引導有時會引導你度過對你的信仰體系或周圍人的信仰體系不舒服的情況，所以這是一個實踐的問題。
And the other thing that is also quite important is not to get involved in dramas of other people.Because when you begin to raise vibrationally above the average,you become a magnet for people's drama.The key here is do not engage.People will get crazy because those new energies are quite strong and people will not be able to handle them.So for you to stay in your own center,and not get involved into all that craziness happening around you.
另一件同樣重要的事情是不要捲入別人的戲劇中。因為當你開始提高振動超過平均水平，你成為一個磁鐵的人的戲劇。這裡的關鍵是不要參與。人們會變得瘋狂，因為這些新的能量是相當強大的，人們將無法處理他們。所以你應該呆在自己的中心，不要捲入發生在你周圍的那些瘋狂的事情。
DEBRA:I know you speak a lot about connecting with your inner guidance.But as I think we can all relate to,it can be challenging sometimes,especially with the interference that we are getting with some of these scalar weapons and things like that.Do you have any suggestions,especially right now with the energies as chaotic as they are and a lot of Lightworkers actually being attacked?Do you have any advice for us on how to manage that,as well as how to really access that inner guidance?
DEBRA:我知道你說了很多關於與你的內在指導建立聯繫的話。但正如我認為我們都能理解的那樣，它有時候是具有挑戰性的，特別是當我們受到一些標量武器之類的干擾時。你有什麼建議嗎，尤其是現在的能量如此混亂，很多光之工作者實際上正在遭受攻擊？你有什麼建議給我們如何管理它，以及如何真正獲得內在的指導嗎？
COBRA:The most simple,practical way would be to spend some time each day in nature.I would say half an hour to one hour each day in nature would help quite much.And do not say you don't have time for that,you can create time for that.It is one of the top priorities to keep sanity in the world as it is now.
COBRA:最簡單實用的方法就是每天花一些時間親近大自然。我想說，每天半小時到一個小時的自然環境會有很大的幫助。不要說你沒有時間，你可以為此創造時間。保持世界和現在一樣的清醒是當務之急。
DEBRA:I love that.I am a big nature person and you are reminding me.It is cold where I am but it is still important to get outside.Very good.
DEBRA:我喜歡。我是一個大自然的人，你在提醒我。我所在的地方很冷，但是外出仍然很重要。很好。
Cobra,if you have a few more minutes,I would like to ask you some more questions specifically related to the divine feminine energy.
柯博拉，如果你還有幾分鐘的時間，我想問你一些特別與神聖女性能量相關的問題。
How can people bring the divine feminine Goddess energy into their lives?
人們怎樣才能把神聖的女神能量帶入他們的生活？
COBRA:The first thing is just to develop inner personal connection with the Goddess energy there.There are many ways to do that.I have published many of them on my blog.People have their own way to connect with the Goddess and if you search,you will find!
COBRA:第一件事就是在那裡發展與女神能量的內在個人聯繫。有很多方法可以做到這一點。我已經在我的博客上發表了很多這樣的文章。人們有他們自己的方式來連接與女神，如果你搜索，你會發現！
DEBRA:Will it have an effect on mass consciousness if Lightworkers start doing this on an individual and regular basis?
DEBRA:如果光之工作者開始在個人和經常的基礎上這樣做，會對大眾意識產生影響嗎？
COBRA:Yes of course that would have an impact on mass consciousness,but what has been observed by the Light Forces is that not enough people are doing that connection and not enough people are making the effort to create that connection.
COBRA:是的，這當然會對大眾意識產生影響，但是光明勢力觀察到的是，沒有足夠多的人在做這種聯繫，也沒有足夠多的人在努力創造這種聯繫。
DEBRA:Right,exactly,it can be a challenge.But it is very important,and I think just acknowledging in a mindful way,like you said,calling in the Goddess,can be very powerful—and this is for men also.It feels like once you embody,I know with my experience,once you embody the Goddess energy,you do suddenly feel a combination of gentle,loving kindness,but very powerful at the same time—which is that energy that is so needed on this planet.Would you agree with that?
DEBRA:對，沒錯，這是個挑戰。但這是非常重要的，而且我認為只要用正念的方式承認，就像你說的，召喚女神，可以是非常強大的ーー這對男人也是如此。我的經驗告訴我，一旦你融入了女神的能量，你會突然感覺到一種溫柔、慈愛的善意，但同時又非常強大ーー這就是這個星球上所需要的能量。你同意嗎？
COBRA:I would agree completely!
COBRA:我完全同意！
DEBRA:Absolutely!Let me speak a little bit about the Sisterhood of the Rose groups.Or can you speak actually about the importance of creating and sustaining these groups,especially at this time in our history?Many groups are experiencing challenges,like division or lack of attendance.How can we grow our groups and keep them harmonious and active?
DEBRA:當然！讓我來談談薔薇聖女團。或者你可以談談創建和維持這些群體的重要性，尤其是在我們歷史的這個時期？許多團體正在經歷挑戰，比如分裂或缺少出席。我們怎樣才能使我們的團隊成長並保持他們的和諧和活躍？
COBRA:As the very word sisterhood implies,there are people,especially women,who are sisters to each other,and that means transcending old belief systems and patterns that women have towards each other.So they need to start behaving towards each other as sisters and not as competitors,and this will solve one-half of the problem.
COBRA:正如姐妹情誼（
The other half of the problem will be solved when there is enough Goddess energy present in a group,that the group will become a magnetic vortex that will draw other people to it.So it is a matter of making a conscious decision,everybody who is involved in those groups,to actively embody sisterhood principle in daily life,and then bring Goddess energy into the group through meditation and other practices that were given through my blog and through other sources.
另一半問題將被解決，當有足夠的女神能量存在於一個群體中，這個群體將成為一個磁性漩渦，將吸引其他人。所以這是一個有意識的決定，每一個參與這些團體的人，在日常生活中積極地體現姐妹情誼原則，然後通過冥想和其他通過我的博客和其他渠道給予的練習，將女神的能量帶入這個團體。
DEBRA:Do you feel the members have to understand all of these principles and be super-knowledgable about what's going on,or can they simply come in with an open heart and a sisterhood mentality?
DEBRA:你覺得成員們必須理解所有這些原則，並且對正在發生的事情瞭如指掌，還是他們只是帶著開放的心態和姐妹情誼的心態來到這裡？
COBRA:If they come with open heart and embody those principles in their actions,that is a very good start.
COBRA:如果他們敞開心扉，在行動中體現這些原則，那將是一個非常好的開始。
DEBRA:Okay,because you know not everybody understands a lot of the things we were talking about or exactly what is going happening on the planet,and especially a lot of Lightworkers say they don't want to talk about the dark side of things.So I just wondered if we could bring in women or men who are really just wanting to make a difference.They may not even understand why but they just want to make a difference.
DEBRA:好的，因為你知道不是每個人都能理解我們談論的很多事情，或者這個星球上到底發生了什麼，尤其是很多光之工作者說他們不想談論事物的陰暗面。所以我想知道我們是否可以引進那些真正想有所作為的女性或男性。他們甚至可能不明白為什麼，但是他們只是想有所作為。
COBRA:Yes,that is the basis.
COBRA:是的，這就是基礎。
DEBRA:Can creating a virtual group have an impact too?
DEBRA:創建一個虛擬群組也會產生影響嗎？
COBRA:It can have,but I would say many,many,many times less because we are on the physical plane and physical action is very important.A virtual group will stay on the mental plane and it will not affect the physical plane so much.This is one of the tricks of the Dark Forces;they have created a mental network.The internet was created by the Light ones,but the Dark Forces have misused the internet to keep people completely enmeshed into the world of ideas and the world of artificial social networking which has nothing to do with our physical lives.And virtual groups have very little impact on the planetary situation.
COBRA:它可以有，但我會說會減少很多，很多，很多倍，因為我們是在物理層面和物理行動是非常重要的。一個虛擬的群體會停留在精神層面上，它不會對物理層面產生太大的影響。這是黑暗勢力的詭計之一;他們創造了一個心理網絡。互聯網是由光明勢力創造的，但是黑暗勢力濫用互聯網，讓人們完全陷入思想的世界和人工社交網絡的世界，這與我們的物質生活毫無關係。虛擬團隊對行星的情況影響甚微。
DEBRA:Really?So it might not even be worth our time or it may even have a negative impact?
DEBRA:真的？因此，它可能甚至不值得我們的時間或它甚至可能有一個負面影響？
COBRA:It would not have a negative impact,but you could use that energy much more effectively by creating even a small physical group.
COBRA:這不會產生負面影響，但是你可以通過創建一個小的物理團隊來更有效地利用這些能量。
DEBRA:How can the Sisterhood of the Rose groups connect with each other energetically,across national borders and language barriers,so that we can support Light on this planet in the most unified way?
DEBRA:薔薇聖女團如何能夠跨越國界和語言障礙，彼此積極地聯繫起來，以便我們能夠以最統一的方式支持這個星球上的光？
COBRA:You can create group meditations,you can interact with each other,even electronically when that is needed.You can have national meetings,you can have international meetings,you can have all kinds of connections.
COBRA:你可以創建集體冥想，你們可以相互交流，甚至在需要的時候電子化。你可以有全國性的會議，你可以有國際性的會議，你可以有各種各樣的聯繫。
DEBRA:Can we connect with each other in the etheric?I am sure,yes,of course we can.
DEBRA:我們能在以太世界裡互相聯繫嗎？我肯定，是的，我們當然可以。
COBRA:Of course through meditation you can connect with anybody.
COBRA:當然，通過冥想你可以和任何人建立聯繫。
DEBRA:So when we do our Goddess vortices,does that connect with other Goddess vortices that other groups are doing?
DEBRA:所以當我們做我們的女神漩渦，是否連接與其他女神漩渦，其他團體正在做？
COBRA:Yes,especially if it is done in the same moment,it is very powerful and can assist the energy grids very much.
COBRA:是的，特別是如果它是在同一時刻完成的，它是非常強大的，可以非常有助於能量網格。
DEBRA:And it is important each time we meet to do the vortex,is that correct?
DEBRA:而且我們每次見面都要進行漩渦，對嗎？
COBRA:Yes.
COBRA:是的。
DEBRA:Thank you!I am glad you said that because in my group sometimes we're like"Oh,do we have to do that,I am tired"so I will stress the importance of that.
DEBRA:謝謝！我很高興你這麼說，因為在我的團隊裡，有時候我們會說"哦，我們一定要這麼做嗎，我累了"，所以我要強調這一點的重要性。
COBRA:Okay,I would like to say that sometimes people are tired and don't want to do something,but this tired is just a blockage that needs to be overcome because when you really do something that is quite important,when you overcome that blockage,you will have amazing results.
COBRA:好的，我想說的是，有時候人們很累，不想做什麼事情，但是這種疲勞只是一個需要克服的障礙，因為當你真正做一些非常重要的事情時，當你克服這個障礙時，你會得到驚人的結果。
And there are people who are complaining that this[Age of Aquarius]meditation is taking time too late,it's 1 am in the morning for some people,but I would say if they are able to wait for the New Year's Eve for the midnight,they can easily await one hour longer for the event that can determine the timeline of their future.I think that it is worth it.
也有人抱怨這種(水瓶時代)的冥想時間太晚了，對有些人來說，現在是凌晨1點，但我想說，如果他們能夠等到新年前夜的午夜，他們可以很容易地等待一個小時，因為這個事件可以決定他們未來的時間表。我認為這是值得的。
DEBRA:Absolutely!I mentioned it to a friend of mine on the east coast,and she was kind of like,"Well,it's kind of late and maybe I will do something else that weekend instead,"and I was like"No,you need to do it at this time!"So,we definitely want to encourage as many people as possible!
DEBRA:當然！我向我在東海岸的一個朋友提到了這件事，她有點像是在說，"嗯，現在有點晚了，也許那個週末我可以做點別的事情，"我說，"不，你這個時候需要做這件事!"所以，我們一定要鼓勵儘可能多的人！
COBRA:It's on the weekend,from Saturday to Sunday,not a working day the next day.It should not be a problem.
COBRA:週末，從週六到週日，而不是第二天的工作日。這應該不成問題。
DEBRA:Absolutely,and really,it's 15 or 20 minutes.It could be the most important 15 or 20 minutes of your life!
DEBRA:當然，真的，只要15到20分鐘。這可能是你生命中最重要的15到20分鐘！
COBRA:Yes,yes.
COBRA:是的，是的。
DEBRA:Before we part,one last question for you.Do you any last words of encouragement for the old-timers,you know the Lightworkers who have been holding the Light and meditating for so long,some of them 30 years in some cases,that are losing hope.What can you say to those veteran Lightworkers,as well as to some of the more new ones?
DEBRA:在我們分手之前，最後問你一個問題。你有沒有給老前輩們最後一句鼓勵的話，你知道那些持有光明和冥想已經很長時間的光之工作者，有些人已經持續了30年了，他們正在失去希望。你能對那些經驗豐富的光之工作者，以及一些更新的工作者說些什麼？
COBRA:What I would say is this year,2020,is actually bringing hope.We have gone through a very long period of intense war which has drained our resources.But this year is actually bringing fresh cosmic,galactic energy that some people can already feel,and if you connect with that energy,you will definitely experience it.And our activation will magnify that energy and bring it closer,and everything we do throughout the year will bring us even closer.
COBRA:我想說的是，今年，2020年，實際上帶來了希望。我們經歷了一個很長時期的激烈戰爭，耗盡了我們的資源。但是今年實際上帶來了新鮮的宇宙能量，一些人已經能夠感覺到的星系能量，如果你連接到這種能量，你一定會體驗到它。我們的激活將會放大這種能量並使它更加接近，我們一年中所做的每一件事都將使我們更加接近。
So this is the end of the long wait energetically speaking.
所以這就是長期積極等待的結束。
DEBRA:Absolutely!Well,people are hoping for the Event in 2020,so let's work towards that.Cobra,is there anything else that you would like to add?
DEBRA:當然！那麼，人們希望在2020年的事件，所以讓我們朝著這個方向努力。柯博拉，你還有什麼要補充的嗎？
COBRA:Okay,I would just encourage everybody to join us at the exact moment of our activation and inform those who you feel are ready for this.You can use your social media,you can use your electronic devices to spread the word,and word of mouth as well.
COBRA:好的，我只是鼓勵每個人在我們激活的那一刻加入我們，告訴那些你認為已經準備好了的人。你可以使用你的社交媒體，你可以使用你的電子設備來傳播這個詞，還有口碑。
This might be one of the most impactful things we have ever done.
這可能是我們做過的最有影響力的事情之一。
Thank you very much,and Victory of the Light!
非常感謝你們，光的勝利！
DEBRA:Victory of the Light!Goddess wants the Age of Aquarius,and the Age of Aquarius it will be!
DEBRA:光的勝利！女神想要水瓶時代，水瓶時代必將來臨！
Thank you very much,Cobra!
非常感謝，柯博拉！
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來源：https://prepareforchange.net/2020/01/07/age-of-aquarius-meditation-interview-with-cobra-by-sisterhood-of-the-rose/
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