柯博拉訪談｜2021/12/4 薔薇聖女團採訪柯博拉“神聖介入激活” (轉貼)

Sisterhood of the Rose organized an interview with Cobra about the importance of the Divine Intervention Activation taking place this month.

薔薇聖女團組織了一次對 Cobra 的採訪，主題是本月發生的神聖介入激活冥想的重要性。

In this interview,Cobra and Debra,a leader with the Sisterhood of the Rose Planetary Network,discuss how the Divine Intervention Activation is a two-step process,involving a global mass meditation on the December 21st solstice,and the signing of the Planetary Liberation petition.

在這次採訪中，Cobra 和行星薔薇聖女團的負責人黛布拉討論了如何將神聖介入激活分為兩個步驟，包括在12月21日至日進行全球性的大規模冥想，以及簽署行星解放請願書。

This two-step trigger will have the maximum effect on the planetary situation possible!

這兩步觸發將對行星情況產生最大的影響！

For more information about this important activation,please visit 

欲瞭解更多關於這一重要激活的信息，請訪問

https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2021/11/divine-intervention-activation-on-december-21st-at-4-pm-utc-1221.html

It's important that as many people as possible participate on December 21,so please spread the word!

儘可能多的人參加12月21日的冥想活動是很重要的，所以請把這個消息傳播出去！

The interview also covers topics such as Galactic intervention,First Contact,current events,the Event and Ascension,healing and protection,as well as the Goddess and Sisterhood of the Rose.

採訪還包括諸如銀河干預、第一次接觸、時事、事件和揚升、療癒和保護，以及薔薇聖女團等話題。

You can listen to the interview on the Sisterhood of the Rose YouTube channel here:

你可以在這裡收聽薔薇聖女團頻道的採訪：

https://youtu.be/xCuLD8lE1T8

Below is the transcript of the interview with Cobra by Sisterhood of the Rose:

以下是薔薇聖女團對 Cobra 的採訪記錄：

Debra:Hello,my name is Debra and I'm a leader with the Sisterhood of the Rose Planetary Network.Today,I have the pleasure to speak again with Cobra,who is the chief Intel provider for the Resistance Movement,where he offers important planetary and galactic information at his blog 2012portal.blogspot.com.Welcome Cobra and thank you so much for doing this interview.

黛布拉：大家好，我叫黛布拉，我是玫瑰行星網路姐妹會的領導者。今天，我很榮幸再次與 Cobra 交談，他是抵抗運動的首席情報供應商，在他的博客2012portal.blogspot.com 上提供了重要的行星和銀河系信息。歡迎 Cobra，非常感謝你接受這次採訪。

Cobra:It's a pleasure to do this interview again after one year.

柯博拉：很高興一年後再次接受採訪。

Debra:Yes,it has been a year and what a year it's been,so we will be talking about that.But we'd like to start with talking about a very important event that we have coming up on the December 21st solstice and that is our Divine Intervention Activation.We will be doing this activation as a two-step process and we will be doing a global mass meditation at 4:00 PM UTC on December 21st,and the second step is also signing the Planetary Liberation petition,and we'll discuss that in a moment.This two-step trigger will have the maximum effect on the planetary situation possible.The intent for this mass meditation is to co-create the trigger that will start the process of First Contact with benevolent Galactic beings and Divine Intervention.Let's start by discussing Divine Intervention.

黛布拉：是的，已經過去一年了，這是怎樣的一年，所以我們將討論這個問題。但是我們想先談談12月21日至日即將到來的一個非常重要的事件，那就是我們的神聖介入。我們將分兩步進行激活我們將在世界標準時間12月21日下午4點進行全球大規模冥想第二步也是簽署行星解放請願書我們一會兒再討論。這兩步觸發將對行星狀況產生最大的影響。這次大規模冥想的意圖是共同創造觸發器，開始與仁慈的銀河存有和神聖介入的第一次接觸過程。讓我們從討論

神聖介入開始。

Part 1:Divine Intervention Activation

第一部分：神聖介入的激活

Debra:In this meditation,we are asking the Source to directly intervene into the situation on Earth,to trigger an intense healing transformation of humanity,and for Light to transmute all remaining darkness on Earth.So Cobra,what would Divine Intervention look like?I mean,in essence,are we asking the Source to trigger the Event,or at least the start of the Event?

黛布拉：在這個冥想中，我們要求源頭直接介入地球上的情況，觸發人類強烈的療癒轉變，並讓光改變地球上所有剩餘的黑暗。那麼 Cobra，神聖介入會是什麼樣子呢？我的意思是，在本質上，我們是否要求源頭觸發事件，或者至少是事件的開始？

Cobra:In a way,yes,we are asking the Source to directly intervene in the situation on the planet in a way that is most beneficial at this particular moment.And of course,the final consequence will be the Event,but we are asking for an intervention to happen now as much as possible in the best possible way for the current situation.

柯博拉：在某種程度上，是的，我們正在要求源頭直接干預地球上的情況，在這個特殊的時刻以一種最有利的方式。當然，最終的結果將是事件，但我們要求干預儘可能現在發生，以最好的方式為目前的情況。

Debra:Okay.And if we reach critical mass,what intervention will occur?I mean,when will this happen?Is it possible this intervention would transmute all remaining darkness on Earth?

黛布拉：好的。如果我們達到臨界質量，會發生什麼干預？我是說，什麼時候會發生？有沒有可能這次干預會改變地球上所有剩餘的黑暗？

Cobra:This is not likely at this point.We are not there yet,but definitely it will increase the process.It will accelerate the process and will be a big step towards the final completion.

柯博拉：這是不可能的，在這一點上。我們還沒有到那一步，但是肯定會增加這個過程。它將加速這一進程，並將是朝著最終完成邁出的一大步。

Debra:Okay,good.And what is so special about this December 21st meditation and also this December 2021 solstice?

黛布拉：好的，很好。那麼這個12月21日的冥想和2021年12月的至日有什麼特別的呢？

Cobra:Solstice every year is a very powerful moment,and this year,certain things are converging.I will not disclose them yet.I will disclose them just before the activation,but there are certain potentially important things happening that are planned for that time that are converging on that date.And we're using that day as a trigger to make those things possible.

柯博拉：每年的夏至都是一個非常重要的時刻，而今年，某些事情正在匯聚。我還不會透露。我會在激活之前公佈它們，但是有一些潛在的重要的事情正在計劃在那個日期發生。而我們正在利用這一天作為一個觸發器，使這些事情成為可能。

Debra:We look forward to hearing about what that will be.Now let's talk about First Contact with benevolent Galactic beings.You've stated that the benevolent citizens in our Galaxy would like humanity to join the Galactic family,but they need a clear,strong coherent signal from the surface population that contact is desired.But why is this signal necessary?I mean,don't they already know how much we need their help and would like to be a part of the Galactic family?

黛布拉：我們期待著聽到那將會是什麼。現在讓我們來談談與仁慈的銀河生物的第一次接觸。你說過我們銀河系仁慈的公民希望人類加入銀河系大家庭但是他們需要一個來自地表人口的清晰的，強烈的相干信號那就是我們想要的聯繫。但為什麼需要這種信號呢？我的意思是，難道他們不知道我們有多麼需要他們的幫助並且願意成為銀河系大家庭的一員嗎？

Cobra:Okay,this planet has,I would say,about 8 billion inhabitants on the surface.And a very tiny percentage of those inhabitants of the surface have any interest,have stated any interest,for a connection for dialogue with the Galactic community.And that signal was simply too weak compared to other signals coming from the surface of the planet.And that's why they need more coherency,more clarity about this.And if our signal reaches the critical mass,it will be strong enough that it would be taken seriously because they need to take into account all the humanity on the surface.If there are just a few people mildly wishing for some kind of a Contact,that's not enough.It needs to be a clear intention,the first step towards Galactic dialogue and this is what we are achieving with this meditation and with this petition.

柯博拉：好的，這個星球的表面有大約80億居民。只有很小一部分居住在地球表面的居民，表示有興趣，與銀河系社區進行對話。這個信號與來自星球表面的其他信號相比，實在是太微弱了。這就是為什麼他們需要更多的一致性，更多的明確性。如果我們的信號達到臨界質量，它將足夠強大，它將被認真對待，因為他們需要考慮到表面上的所有人類。如果只有少數人溫和地希望有某種形式的聯繫，這是不夠的。它需要一個明確的意圖，通向銀河對話的第一步，這就是我們通過這次冥想和這次請願所取得的成果。

Debra:Oh,that's interesting.You know,that makes sense because the collective is,as we know,quite asleep and I'm sure that we are sending them a very mixed message on what we want for the planet.How is it that we are not already a member of the Galactic family?Have we not yet been accepted into the Galactic family because of all of the anomaly and darkness on Earth?Or is it because we never sent out a cohesive signal,like you said?

黛布拉：哦，這很有趣。你知道，這是有道理的，因為集體是，我們知道，相當沉睡，我敢肯定，我們正在向他們發出一個非常複雜的信息，我們希望為這個星球。為什麼我們不是銀河大家庭的一員呢？難道我們還沒有被銀河大家庭接納，因為地球上所有的異常和黑暗？還是因為我們從來沒有像你說的那樣發出一個有凝聚力的信號？

Cobra:That signal is just the first step.To really be a part of a Galactic family,you need to learn to behave like a part of the family,which humanity clearly hasn't done yet.So this will be just the first step.And even to be considered to be accepted,it will be a process.It will be a certain procedure,a certain protocol.And this is the first step of that protocol.I will say this is the first moment of Galactic diplomacy between the surface of the planet and the Galactic society.

柯博拉：那個信號只是第一步。要真正成為銀河系大家庭的一員，你需要學會像大家庭的一員那樣行事，而人類顯然還沒有做到這一點。所以這只是第一步。即使被認為是可以接受的，這也是一個過程。這將是一個特定的過程，一個特定的協議。這是協議的第一步。我想說，這是銀河外交的第一個時刻，在地球表面和銀河社會之間。

Debra:So do we need to be completely free of darkness before we can join the Galactic family?

黛布拉：那麼在我們加入銀河大家庭之前，我們需要完全擺脫黑暗嗎？

Cobra:To be officially accepted,yes.And this is going to be achieved through the process of the Event.

柯博拉：被正式接受，是的。這將通過事件的過程來實現。

Debra:Yes.What would it be like to be a part of this Galactic family?I mean,what would that look like?Would we see more evidence in our skies of ET craft?Will they appear on Earth?Will the telepathic channels open up more between us and them?What does it look like?

黛布拉：是的。成為這個銀河大家庭的一員會是什麼樣子？我是說，那會是什麼樣子？我們會在外星飛船的天空中看到更多的證據嗎？它們會出現在地球上嗎？心靈感應通道會在我們和他們之間打開更多嗎？它看起來像什麼？

Cobra:Humanity will have First Contact before it will be accepted as an equal part of the Galactic society.So First Contact,Divine Intervention,the Event,all those things will happen before.We are reaching beyond the Event with this activation actually;we are reaching to the point of really becoming part of the Galactic family,which is even more.And obviously this will be a very pleasant experience because finally at that point this planet will no longer be a planet of darkness.And obviously that is something that is much better than the state of affairs right now on the surface of the planet.

柯博拉：人類將有第一次接觸之前，它將被接受為一個平等的部分，作為銀河系社會。所以第一次接觸，神聖介入，事件，所有這些事情都會先發生。我們實際上正在通過這個激活超越事件；我們正在達到真正成為銀河系大家庭的一部分的點，這甚至更多。顯然，這將是一次非常愉快的經歷，因為到那時，這個星球將不再是一個黑暗的星球。顯然，這比現在地球表面的情況要好得多。

Debra:Yes,and we'll talk about that in a moment.So when we talk of First Contact,we think of Galactic beings visiting us from space,but does First Contact also include benevolent beings underground,like the Agarthans and the Resistance Movement coming to the surface?

黛布拉：是的，我們一會兒再談這個。所以當我們談到第一次接觸時，我們會想到來自太空的銀河生物，但是第一次接觸是否也包括地下的仁慈生物，比如阿加森人和抵抗運動來到地表？

Cobra:Yes,but this part is still classified.We're focusing now more on the Galactic part of the beings coming in the ships;first the Pleiadians contacting certain selected individuals and then spreading this further.So this is what our focus is with this right now.

柯博拉：是的，但這部分仍然是機密。我們現在更多地關注飛船上來的生物的銀河系部分；首先昴宿星人聯繫某些特定的個體，然後進一步傳播。這就是我們現在關注的重點。

Debra:Okay.And you stated that if we reach a critical mass of 144,000 people joining the meditation,it will have far-reaching exopolitical and geopolitical consequences.So can you elaborate on those consequences?

黛布拉：好。你說過，如果我們達到144,000人參加冥想的臨界質量，將會產生深遠的外部政治和地緣政治後果。那麼你能詳細闡述一下這些後果嗎？

Cobra:Okay.First I will focus on the petition.If this petition reaches that number of signatures,it will be considered by the Galactic forces that we have represented a significant part of humanity that wishes to initiate contact.And by the Galactic law,they are required to respond.So they will respond in a certain way;how they will respond and how this will be communicated is not yet to be revealed,but there will be a response.And that response might not be public at first because that will not be safe,but there will be a certain process initialized.And once that process is started it cannot be stopped anymore.It cannot be reversed.So it will be something that will be put in motion.It will be set in motion that it will keep on going.

柯博拉：好的。首先，我會專注於請願書。如果這份請願書得到了這麼多人的簽名，那麼銀河系的力量就會認為我們已經代表了希望發起接觸的人類的一個重要部分。根據銀河法律，他們必須做出回應。所以他們會以一種特定的方式作出反應，他們將如何作出反應，以及這種反應將如何傳達尚不清楚，但會有一個反應。一開始這種反應可能不會公開，因為這樣做不安全，但是會有一個初始化的過程。一旦這個過程被啟動，它就不能再被停止了。它不能被逆轉。因此，這將是一件需要付諸實施的事情。它將開始運作，並將持續下去。

Debra:Okay,and yeah,I would like to talk to you more about that petition in a moment too.But getting back to the meditation,what exactly are we meditating for with this meditation?You said certain people would be contacted by the Pleiadians.So is this for individual contact for certain people or for planetary contact,like a mass landing,and which would happen first?

黛布拉：好的，是的，我也想稍後再和你們談談請願書的事情。回到冥想，我們冥想到底是為了什麼？你說昴宿星人會聯繫某些人。所以這是為了某些人的個人接觸，還是為了行星接觸，比如大規模登陸，哪個會先發生？

Cobra:It's for both actually.After certain selected individuals will be contacted,they will speak about their experience.A chain reaction will be triggered,which will lead at some point to massive sightings of the Galactic fleet,massive reporting of this in the media,all interwoven with the Event and with a full disclosure process.These are all elements of the same process that are happening in a certain particular sequence.

柯博拉：實際上兩者都是。在聯繫了某些被選中的人之後，他們會談論他們的經歷。一個連鎖反應將被觸發，這將導致在某一點上大規模目擊銀河艦隊，在媒體上大規模報導這一點，所有交織與事件和一個完整的披露過程。這些都是同一個過程中的要素，以特定的順序發生著。

Debra:Okay.And do you have an idea of who those people are that would be contacted?I know a lot of people are probably wondering who those people are and if it might be them.I mean,is it anyone that makes these decrees would be either physically or telepathically contacted if they are open to it,or are there specific people that the Light Forces have selected?

黛布拉：好的。你知道我們會聯繫哪些人嗎？我知道很多人可能想知道這些人是誰，是否可能是他們。我的意思是，是否有人制定了這些法令，如果他們願意接受的話，他們可以通過身體或心靈感應進行聯繫，或者是光明力量選擇了特定的人？

Cobra:There is a certain protocol called the Contact Dish protocol,which I have published on my blog years ago,and people who are participating in that project will be among the first to be contacted because they have private land,which is from a legal standpoint,much easier for a small ship to land on a private land and that physical contact can be made without interference.This will be the easiest to manifest as soon as possible.As soon as it's safe,this will be done.Of course,many people will have telepathic contact;there will be people having spiritual experiences,visions,visitations in dreams.But now we're speaking more about real physical contact with evidence.People will be able to take photos,people will be able to record video.All this will be at some point distributed through the media.

柯博拉：有一種協議叫做私人星際交流區 (Contact Dish) 協議，我幾年前在我的博客上發表過，參與這個項目的人將是第一批被聯繫的人，因為他們有私人土地，從法律角度來看，小船在私人土地上降落更容易，而且可以在不受干擾的情況下進行身體接觸。這將是最容易顯示儘快。一旦安全，就會完成。當然，很多人會有心靈感應的接觸，有人會有精神體驗，幻覺，夢中的造訪。但是現在我們談論的更多的是與證據的真實身體接觸。人們將能夠拍照，人們將能夠錄影。所有這些都將在某個時候通過媒體傳播。

Debra:Is it possible that this could happen before the Event?

黛布拉：這有沒有可能發生在事件發生之前？

Cobra:Yes,it's possible.The exact sequence is not yet to be disclosed at this point for obvious reasons,for strategic reasons,because there are many beings that are listening to this that are not really welcome to listen to this and have some agendas that are not in alignment with the Divine plan.But I would say that people will be contacted before the Event,in the final phase before the Event.

柯博拉：是的，有可能。由於顯而易見的原因，出於戰略上的原因，確切的順序在這一點上還沒有被披露，因為有許多存有正在聽這個，他們並不真正歡迎聽這個，並且有一些不符合神聖計劃的議程。但我要說的是，人們會在事件發生之前，在事件發生之前的最後階段被聯繫上。

Debra:What about people that don't own land?Are they eliminated from any kinds of physical contact?

黛布拉：那些沒有土地的人怎麼辦？他們會被排除在任何形式的身體接觸之外嗎？

Cobra:No,they will not be eliminated,but it's a little bit more difficult to arrange something for them.It is possible to arrange something for them while they are walking in nature and on public land,but it's not that easy.So that will happen also,but it is easier to manifest physical contact for those who own land just for practical and legal reasons.Everything needs to be done correctly to minimize interference from the dark forces.That's the main reason.Safety is number one priority.People that will be contacted need to remain safe.

柯博拉：不，他們不會被淘汰，但是為他們安排一些事情有點困難。當它們在大自然和公共土地上行走時，為它們安排一些事情是可能的，但不是那麼容易。所以這也會發生，但是對於那些只是出於實際和法律原因擁有土地的人來說，顯示身體接觸更容易。所有的事情都需要正確地做，以儘量減少來自黑暗勢力的干擾。這是主要原因。安全是第一要務。將被聯繫的人需要保持安全。

Debra:Yes,of course.But I was thinking of that,what if a person was walking in nature someplace and if that would maybe be an option?

黛布拉：是的，當然。但是我在想，如果一個人在大自然的某個地方行走會怎麼樣，如果這也許是一種選擇呢？

Cobra:That is an option,yes.As soon as it will be safe and as soon as it will be convenient,that will happen.

柯博拉：這是一個選擇，是的。一旦它變得安全，一旦它變得方便，它就會發生。

Debra:And what would make it safe?

黛布拉：什麼能讓它安全呢？

Cobra:It means that the Cabal is losing enough power.It means a location where that particular person will be walking will be easily accessible from the orbit.For example,for the Pleiadian craft,it needs to be positioned that is not too close to military bases.It needs to be a position which is in a favorable position,not to be overly detected from the ground.There are many factors involved.

柯博拉：這意味著陰謀集團正在失去足夠的能量。這意味著某個特定的人將要行走的地方將很容易從軌道上接近。舉例來說，昴宿星的飛行器需要定位在不太靠近軍事基地的地方。它需要位於一個有利的位置，不能被地面過度探測到。這其中有很多因素。

Debra:I see.Okay.So they might have to be pretty far out in nature privately.

黛布拉：我明白了。好吧。所以它們可能在自然界中相當遠的地方，私下裡。

Cobra:Yeah.This is different from case to case.There are many other factors involved.I would say also the consciousness of the recipient is a major factor,attachment of that person to other persons,the social network of that person.There are many reasons,many,many different factors,which are determining who to be contacted,when,and how.

柯博拉：是的。每個案例都不一樣。還有很多其他的因素。我想說，接受者的意識也是一個主要因素，那個人對其他人的依戀，那個人的社交網路。有很多原因，很多很多不同的因素，決定著聯繫誰，什麼時候，怎麼聯繫。

Debra:What would you suggest on how we prepare ourselves for that possible contact?

黛布拉：對於我們如何為可能的聯繫做好準備，你有什麼建議？

Cobra:I would suggest people to read the Contact Dish protocol on my blog and everything is written there.

柯博拉：我建議人們在我的博客上閲讀私人星際交流區 (Contact Dish) 協議，所有的內容都寫在那裡。

Debra:Okay.I just wonder because you were talking about our social network and the consciousness of that person.

黛布拉：好吧。我只是好奇，因為你剛才談到了我們的社交網路和那個人的意識。

Cobra:I will not go further into this at this point.

柯博拉：我不會在這一點上進一步深入。

Debra:Okay.The higher our vibration is,the more we work on ourselves and cleaning our energy fields,probably would help with all of that,I'm sure.

黛布拉：好的。我們的振動越高，我們對自己做的工作就越多，清理我們的能量場，我相信這可能對所有這些都有幫助。

Cobra:Definitely,definitely.The Pleiadians have a priority list and they will contact people who are the most conscious and who will be safe enough to go through that contact without any interference from the dark.So there are two main factors at this point.

柯博拉：絶對的，絶對的。昴宿星人有一個優先名單，他們會聯繫那些最有意識的人，那些足夠安全的人可以在沒有任何黑暗干擾的情況下通過這個聯繫。所以現在有兩個主要因素。

Debra:Very good to know.So there's been a little bit of confusion about what this whole activation is about.Is it like a final plea?Are we calling this in because the Light Forces have realized that the dark are more powerful than expected and that we are running out of time,that we need extra help?We know that liberation of Earth is 100%required as the Galactic Codex clearly mandates this,but are we doing this activation because we are at the stage where things need to be done faster and dramatic action is required?

黛布拉：很高興知道。所以我們對這整個激活的目的有點困惑。這是最後的請求嗎？我們召集這次會議是因為光明勢力已經意識到黑暗比預期的更加強大，我們正在耗盡時間，我們需要額外的幫助？我們知道地球的解放是100%必要的，因為銀河法典明確規定了這一點，但是我們這樣做是因為我們在這個階段需要做的事情更快，戲劇性的行動是必要的嗎？

Cobra:Okay,this is not done from a position of desperation.It's done from a position of power.It means that finally the consciousness of the surface population is ready to reach the critical mass with this.This petition,for example,was created eight years ago and the numbers at that time were about 20,000 people.We have already gathered five times that amount right now,up until this point.So we can see that the situation now in the eight years has developed to a point where we can actually realistically reach that critical mass and set this process in motion.So this is why we're doing this now.It's a perfect moment.It's the first time when it's realistically possible to achieve this.

柯博拉：好吧，這不是在絶望的情況下做的。而是從權力的角度。這意味著最終地表人口的意識，已經準備好達到臨界質量。例如，這份請願書是八年前創立的，當時的人數大約是20000人。到目前為止，我們已經聚集了五倍於這個數字的人。所以我們可以看到八年來的情況已經發展到我們可以實際達到臨界質量並啟動這一進程的地步。這就是我們現在這麼做的原因。這是一個完美的時刻。這是第一次真正有可能做到這一點。

Debra:That is a very inspiring and optimistic way of looking at this,so I'm so glad to hear that you say that,that's great news.Do we need extraterrestrials to bring in the new Earth?Is there any chance we could do this ourselves or do we really need their assistance?

黛布拉：這是一個非常鼓舞人心和樂觀的看待這個問題的方式，所以我很高興聽到你說，這是一個好消息。我們需要外星人帶來新的地球嗎？我們是否有可能自己做到這一點，或者我們真的需要他們的幫助？

Cobra:There are two one-sided perspectives on this planet.One is that we need to do everything on our own.And the other one,we are helpless,and we are powerless and need external help.Actually,what is necessary here is partnership.Partnership between the surface population and the Galactic races.And this is the way it is done all over the galaxy,and this is the way it has to be done here to be successful.We have one necessary essential element to the liberation,and they have the other one,and only together we can make this possible.So this is why this partnership is necessary to empower each other and to make this liberation possible.We are creating a bridge between the surface of the planet and the heaven,and this bridge will trigger the Event.It will assist in that process,and it will defeat the darkness.

柯博拉：這個星球上有兩種片面的觀點。一個是我們需要自己做所有的事情。另一方面，我們很無助，我們無能為力，需要外界的幫助。事實上，我們需要的是夥伴關係。地表人口和銀河系種族之間的夥伴關係。這是整個銀河系都在實現的方式這也是為了成功必須在這裡實現的方式。我們有一個解放的必要元素，他們有另一個，只有我們一起才能使之成為可能。所以這就是為什麼這種夥伴關係對於相互授權，並使這種解放成為可能是必要的。我們正在地球表面和天堂之間建立一座橋樑，這座橋樑將引發事件。它將協助這個過程，它將戰勝黑暗。

Debra:Yes,together is very,very powerful.We could learn from that here on planet Earth about working together!So let's talk about the power of putting our consciousness together through the mass meditation.We have reached before critical mass of 144,000 people;we've even reached a million before.But we haven't really seen many results in the physical,and that has been discouraging for some people.Can you explain how these meditations have helped in ways that we may not see with our physical eyes?I know you've explained this before,but it really feels like people need to hear this again.

黛布拉：是的，團結在一起是非常非常強大的。我們可以從地球上學到如何合作！那麼，讓我們來談談通過大規模冥想，將我們的意識整合在一起的力量。我們已經達到了144,000人的臨界質量;我們甚至達到了100萬人的臨界質量。但是我們還沒有在親眼中看到很多結果，這讓一些人感到沮喪。你能解釋一下這些冥想是如何幫助我們達到肉眼無法看到的效果的嗎？我知道你之前已經解釋過了，但我真的覺得人們需要再聽一遍。

Cobra:People sometimes have expectations that are not based in reality.People are expecting a few minutes of one strong meditation can transmute all darkness on planet Earth which was accumulating here for thousands and thousands of years.That of course is not possible.Real physical change that will be visible,evident,and what people are expecting,will only happen the last few weeks before the Event.Nothing will be really visible months before the Event.The only time when people will really begin to notice changes is a few weeks before the Event.So no matter how many meditations we do before that particular moment,there'll be no really strongly visible external changes.What does change with every meditation is we empower the positive timeline,and we prevent many negative things from happening.Without our meditations,we would not be having this conversation right now,maybe this surface of the planet would already have been destroyed.So we have averted so many negative scenarios.We have averted so many wars.They have attempted to create a war in Syria,in Iraq,in Iran,in Israel,in Ukraine,you name it.So many times over and never succeeded.The only time they succeeded was with this pandemic,and the only reason why they succeeded with this pandemic,I would say the main reason why they succeeded with this pandemic,was that the key Lightworkers on the planet have made crucial,stupid,and egoistic mistakes in 2018 and in 2019.That could all be prevented;it was not necessary,this pandemic.It's completely unnecessary,this whole drama could be avoided.But I would say that many other things have been avoided with our meditations and it helped a lot.Many things could have been much worse than they are now.It's a complete miracle that we are not living in a completely totalitarian New World Order regime right now.There are elements of it,yes,but we are not there,we are not living in concentration camps.So it's a complete miracle that we are not there.If we compare what the dark forces are doing,how much energy they put into this and the state of humanity of the surface of the planet,we have been extremely successful if we see how these things could have turned out.

柯博拉：人們有時候會有一些不切實際的期望。人們期待一個強烈的冥想能夠改變地球上所有的黑暗，這些黑暗已經在這裡積累了成千上萬年。這當然是不可能的。真正的物理變化將是可見的，明顯的，和人們所期待的，只會發生在事件前的最後幾個星期。事件發生前的幾個月，什麼都不會真正顯現出來。人們真正開始注意到變化的唯一時間是在事件發生前的幾週。所以不管我們在那個特定的時刻之前做了多少冥想，都不會有真正強烈可見的外部變化。每次冥想真正改變的是我們賦予了正面的時間線，我們阻止了許多消極的事情發生。如果沒有我們的冥想，我們現在就不會有這樣的對話，也許這個星球的表面已經被摧毀了。所以我們避免了很多負面的情況。我們避免了許多戰爭。他們試圖在敘利亞、伊拉克、伊朗、以色列、烏克蘭等地製造戰爭。這麼多次都沒有成功。他們唯一成功的一次是在這次大流行病中，他們成功的唯一原因，我想說他們成功的主要原因，是地球上關鍵的光之工作者在2018年和2019年犯了關鍵的，愚蠢的，自私的錯誤。這一切都是可以預防的，但這並不是必須的，這種流行病。完全沒有必要，這整個事件是可以避免的。但我想說的是，在我們的冥想過程中，許多其他的事情都被避免了，這對我們有很大的幫助。很多事情本來可能比現在更糟糕。我們現在沒有生活在一個完全極權主義的新世界秩序體制中，這完全是一個奇蹟。是的，有一些因素，但是我們不在那裡，我們不是生活在集中營裡。所以我們不在那裡完全是個奇蹟。如果我們比較黑暗勢力在做什麼，他們在這裡投入了多少能量，以及地球表面的人類狀態，我們已經非常成功，如果我們看到這些事情是如何發生的。

Debra:Wow,that just demonstrates the power that Lightworkers do have!

黛布拉：哇，這恰恰證明了光之工作者所擁有的力量！

Cobra:Much more than people realize.Much more than people realize.

柯博拉：比人們意識到的要多得多，比人們意識到的要多得多。

Debra:And that alone is a wakeup call I think for many.I'm so glad that you said that.And it also shows the power of mass meditation too.I want to ask,will it help to do the meditation daily before the big global one on December 21st?Will that have any impact in building up energies?

黛布拉：這本身就是一個警鐘，我想對很多人來說。我很高興你這麼說。這也顯示了群體冥想的力量。我想問的是，在12月21日全球大型冥想活動之前每天進行冥想會有幫助嗎？這對積累能量有什麼影響嗎？

Cobra:Yes,of course it will be,it will help building up the energy.Of course,you are invited to do the meditation anytime you want,every day.If that's your guidance,that's perfect.

柯博拉：是的，當然會，它將有助於建立能量。當然，我們會邀請你在任何你想要的時間進行冥想，每天都可以。如果這就是你的指導，那就完美了。

Debra:Okay.We know that with these mass meditations,the more people that participate,the more impactful it will be.So it is important that people promote this one as much as possible,especially what you've shared with us about what results we could see from it.The intention for this one,with calling in First Contact of Galactic beings,isn't really for everyone.You know,many"unawakened"people would find this either silly or frightening.So how can we bring in more mainstream folks to increase our numbers?Is it by focusing on the"divine intervention"aspect of it,or what do you think?

黛布拉：好的。我們知道，通過這些集體冥想，參與的人越多，它的影響力就越大。因此，人們儘可能多地推廣這種方法是很重要的，尤其是你們與我們分享的，我們可以從中看到什麼樣的結果。這篇文章的目的是召喚銀河生物的第一次接觸，並不是每個人都能接受的。你知道，許多"未覺醒"的人會覺得這要麼愚蠢要麼可怕。那麼，我們怎樣才能吸引更多的主流人群來增加我們的人數呢？是通過專注於"神聖干預"方面，還是你的想法？

Cobra:Well,you need to use your own guidance,so who you share this with and what your wording is.But I have made a public call to a few figures out there who are actually,in a way,working on this,promoting First Contact in a certain way,and they have not responded.So I would simply say,I don't understand this.We are trying to create something really beautiful,something really important,and there is simply no interest.So you see the Galactic Forces are observing all this,and this is why they have reservations.There is simply not enough unity;everybody's having their little garden,their little group of followers,and doing their own thing,which is understandable from the Galactic perspective as much as they understand human psychology,but they cannot take things seriously if this is all they see,if you know what I mean.

柯博拉：嗯，你需要使用你自己的指導，所以你與誰分享這一點，你的措辭是什麼。但我已經公開呼吁了一些人，他們在某種程度上正在努力以某種方式促進《第一次接觸》但他們沒有回應。所以我只想說，我不明白。我們試圖創造一些真正美麗的東西，一些真正重要的東西，但是根本沒有人感興趣。你可以看到銀河力量正在觀察這一切，這就是為什麼他們有所保留。根本就沒有足夠的團結，每個人都有自己的小花園，自己的小追隨者，做自己的事情，這從銀河系的角度來看是可以理解的，就像他們理解人類心理一樣，但是如果他們只看到這些，他們就不能認真對待事情，如果你明白我的意思。

Debra:Yeah,absolutely.I think this is a time for people to put their egos aside and have unity in the community and gather together to really help this planet,because there is power in numbers.So we send out a call to everyone to hear this,share this with your followers,share this on your social network,share with your family and friends.We do need it.It would be great if we could get as many people as possible,especially those with large followings.

黛布拉：是的，當然。我認為現在是時候讓人們把自我放在一邊，團結在社區裡，聚集在一起，真正幫助這個星球，因為人多力量大。所以我們呼籲每個人聽到這些，與你的追隨者分享，在你的社交網路上分享，與你的家人和朋友分享。我們確實需要它。如果我們能夠得到儘可能多的人，尤其是那些擁有大量追隨者的人，那就太好了。

Cobra:Yes,I'm not speaking to convert anybody or to try to convince people who are not open to this,but there are people who are already working on this on some level,in a certain way.And those are the people who would need to participate anyway.Because this is not my own little personal idea,it's part of the global plan for humanity.(Yes)And anybody else could start this at any point,but they didn't.So this could be started at any point in the last 50 or 60 years,because people know about extraterrestrial races,there are many books and videos and movies about this for the last few decades already out there.And this could be initiated at any point,but it wasn't.So the time is now.Now it's time for us to really get our act together and do this.

柯博拉：是的，我並不是要說服任何人，或者試圖說服那些不願意接受這種觀點的人，但是有些人已經在某種程度上，以某種方式在這方面做出了努力。無論如何，這些人都需要參與進來。因為這不是我個人的小想法，它是全球人類計劃的一部分。（是的）任何人都可以在任何時候啟動這個計劃，但是他們沒有。所以這可能是在過去50或60年的任何時候開始的，因為人們知道外星種族，在過去的幾十年裡，已經有很多關於這方面的書籍、視頻和電影。這可以在任何時候開始，但它不是。所以現在是時候了。現在是我們真正行動起來，做這件事的時候了。

Debra:Yes,one hundred percent.Let's talk a little bit more about the petition because it is very important.I would like people to have a really clear understanding about why we're doing this,it seems a little bit silly to create a petition to talk to Galactic beings.But you mentioned that energetic bridge that this will create,so could you speak more about that,and how this will speed up the process of liberation?

黛布拉：是的，百分之百。讓我們再多談談請願書，因為它非常重要。我希望人們對我們為什麼這樣做有一個真正清晰的理解，這似乎有點愚蠢，創建一個請願書與銀河生物對話。但是你提到了這將會創造出一座充滿活力的橋樑，所以你能不能多談談這個，以及這將如何加速解放的進程？

Cobra:Okay.This is actually a legal document.We are signing a legal document;we are creating the declaration of our unified will.And if this declaration is strong enough,the Galactic Forces will take this seriously.You see,they can read the minds of people and they can see all the conflicting thoughts in people's minds.In one way,people would like to have intervention,and in other ways,they are angry at the Light Forces.And then they're afraid,and then they doubt if any of this even exists and there is no proof.And you know,all those mixed thoughts create a very mixed signal.And they need something very clear and very coherent to respond to this.(Okay)And this needs to be a physical action,it needs to be a physical document.It needs to be a physical process.You need to sit down at your computer and sign the petition,because you want intervention on the physical plane.It is all about manifestation,if you want physical action,you need to take physical action

柯博拉：好的。這實際上是一份法律文件。我們正在簽署一份法律文件；我們正在創建我們統一意志的宣言。如果這個宣言足夠強大，銀河系的力量會認真對待。你看，他們可以讀取人們的思想，他們可以看到人們頭腦中所有相互矛盾的想法。在某種程度上，人們希望有介入，在其他方面，他們對光明力量感到憤怒。然後他們害怕，然後他們懷疑這些是否存在，而且沒有證據。你知道，所有這些複雜的想法產生了一個非常複雜的信號。他們需要一些非常清晰和連貫的東西來回應這個。（好的）這需要一個實際的行動，它需要一個實際的文件。它需要一個物理過程。你需要坐在電腦前簽署請願書，因為你想要在物理層面上進行干預。這都是關於表現，如果你想要身體上的行動，你需要身體上的行動。

Debra:That makes a lot of sense.

黛布拉：這很有道理。

Cobra:And this is creating a bridge between higher dimensions and the physical plane.It creates a network.It creates a bridge also between the surface of the planet and all those locations in the orbit where the ships are.

柯博拉：這就在更高維度和物理層面之間建立了一座橋樑。它創造了一個網路。它還在地球表面和飛船所在軌道上的所有位置之間建立了一座橋樑。

Debra:Okay,yeah,that makes great sense.And so you mentioned earlier that it was initially launched about eight years ago,in 2013.So why is it so important now that we reach the critical mass?And what happens if we don't have 144,000 signatures by the time…?

黛布拉：好吧，是的，這很有道理。你之前提到過它最初是在八年前2013年發佈的。那麼為什麼現在達到臨界質量如此重要呢？如果到時候我們沒有144,000個簽名會怎麼樣？

Cobra:It was always important to reach the critical mass,but it was not realistic.If I would start this years ago,it would not happen,but right now we have the first real chance to do it.And we will reach the critical mass.I'm not talking about the possibility that we're not going to reach the critical mass.So we are going to reach a critical mass.

柯博拉：達到臨界質量一直很重要，但這並不現實。如果我在幾年前就開始這樣做，它就不會發生，但是現在我們有第一個真正的機會去做。我們會達到臨界質量。我不是在說我們無法達到臨界質量的可能性。所以我們會達到臨界質量。

Debra:Yes,we definitely are.What happens if someone signed it years ago,but they can't recall if they had;should they sign it again now?

黛布拉：是的，我們肯定是。如果幾年前有人簽了它，但是他們不記得他們是否簽了，那會發生什麼；他們現在應該再簽一次嗎？

Cobra:I've made instructions very clear.You sign only once.

柯博拉：我已經說得很清楚了，你只能簽一次。

Debra:Okay.And would you just speak a little bit more about how having critical mass on this petition will magnify the effect of the meditation that we're doing?

黛布拉：好的。你能不能再多說一點關於請願書的臨界質量會如何放大我們正在進行的冥想的效果？

Cobra:It will actually be the first real step towards what we are manifesting in this meditation.So when the critical mass of the petition is reached,this will,as I said before,set a certain legal and exopolitical process.There will be certain dialogue created.The Galactic councils will meet,they will make decisions.They will initialize certain action that will involve in a certain way also the surface of the planet.It will speed up the Contact process.Things will set in motion and what we're realizing is exactly that.So this petition will accelerate the timeline towards the Contact.Galactic fleet will be authorized to be more active in lower orbit and towards the surface.There might be connections on the surface.I cannot disclose more right now,but I would say that certain things will be sped up.They will be accelerated.The Galactic Force will have more authority to do more than they had before.They will have a stronger hand against the Cabal,so they will be authorized to do more because they will know we want the bad guys to be gone–not just in some confusing thoughts,not full of revenge and powerlessness,but with clear intent,which is much more powerful.

柯博拉：這實際上將是邁向我們在這個冥想中所顯化的第一步。所以當請願書達到臨界質量時，正如我之前所說，這將設定一個特定的法律和域外政治程序。會有一定的對話產生。銀河委員會將會召開會議，做出決定。他們會啟動某些行動，這些行動將以某種方式涉及到行星的表面。這將加快聯繫的進程。事情將開始運轉，我們正在意識到這一點。所以這份請願書會加快聯繫的進程。銀河艦隊將被授權在低軌道和地表更加活躍。地球表面可能有聯繫。我現在不能透露更多，但我想說，有些事情會加速進行。它們會加速。銀河系的力量將擁有比以前更大的權力去做更多的事情。他們將對陰謀集團採取更強有力的手段，因此他們將被授權採取更多行動，因為他們知道我們希望壞人消失——不僅僅是在一些令人困惑的想法中，不是充滿復仇和無能為力，而是懷著明確的意圖，這種意圖要強大得多。

Debra:Yes,absolutely.And I just have to share this…I just got confirmation that we will reach 144,000.When I glanced down,it was 1:44[pm]where I am,so that was a very powerful message.So we look forward to that!

黛布拉：是的，當然。我必須分享這個...我剛剛得到確認，我們將達到144000。當我往下看的時候，我所在的地方是下午1點44分，所以這是一個非常有力的信息。所以我們很期待！

Part 2:Galactic Situation Update

第二部分：銀河系狀況更新

Debra:Let's now move on to talking a little bit about the Galactic situation.You said in a recent post,how the Light Forces are creating a Dyson Sphere around the sun and around the Earth in order to temper the strength of the Galactic pulse that will come from the Galactic Central Sun in the near future(and we love those words"in the near future").We are looking at this as good news,that this is for preparation for the powerful,incoming Galactic energies of the Event.And the question is,are these Dyson spheres needed so that we don't end up like Atlantis?Were they used when the pulse hit the Earth at the time of Atlantis?And have they been used on other planets that went through what we're about to go through?

黛布拉：現在我們來談談銀河系的情況。你在最近的一篇文章中提到，光之力量是如何圍繞太陽和地球創造一個戴森球體，以便在不久的將來調節來自銀河系中央太陽的銀河脈衝的強度（我們喜歡這些詞"在不久的將來"）。我們認為這是一個好消息，這是為這次事件中強大的、即將到來的銀河系能量做準備。問題是，是否需要這些戴森球體來避免我們最終像亞特蘭蒂斯一樣？它們是在亞特蘭蒂斯時代脈衝撞擊地球時使用的嗎？在其他經歷過我們即將經歷的行星上使用過嗎？

Cobra:Those Dyson Spheres are used regularly when a planet goes through a phase transition like this.Every time the sun goes Mininova and when the conditions are correct,the planets with inhabited life are protected against excess radiation because strong solar pulses always create so much radiation that it might not be so easy to survive it.So this Dyson Sphere will filter out certain frequencies.It will regulate certain frequencies so that whatever we go through,we survive the process intact.

柯博拉：當行星經歷這樣的相變時，戴森球會被定期使用。每當太陽進入 Mininova 的時候，當條件正確的時候，有生命存在的行星就會受到過量輻射的保護，因為強烈的太陽脈衝總是會產生如此多的輻射，可能不會那麼容易存活下來。所以這個戴森球體會過濾掉某些頻率。它會調節特定的頻率，這樣無論我們經歷什麼，我們都能完好無損地存活下來。

Debra:Can you give us any insight into the technology that will create these spheres and will they be visible to us in any way?

黛布拉：你能告訴我們創造這些球體的技術是什麼嗎?我們能看到它們嗎？

Cobra:Actually,they are not spheres,they are just called spheres.This is actually certain huge motherships put into certain sacred geometry position around the Earth and around the sun that create a quantum force field that filters out frequencies.They will be cloaked.They will not be visible.(I see,okay.)They might be visible at the moment of the polar shift and the final evacuation,but not before.

柯博拉：事實上，它們不是球體，它們只是被稱為球體。這實際上是某些巨大的母艦放置在地球和太陽周圍的某些神聖的幾何位置上，創造出一個量子力場，過濾掉頻率。它們會被隱形。他們不會被發現。（我明白了，好吧）它們可能在極移和最終撤離的時刻出現，但在此之前不會出現。

Debra:Okay.And have the Light Forces started this project,and how long does it take to align their ships?

黛布拉：好的。光之力量已經開始這個項目了嗎？需要多長時間來校準他們的飛船？

Cobra:I would say they are in early initial phases of creating this.When the conditions in the solar system are correct,this can be done pretty fast.But conditions are not quite ready yet.But now I would say they are in the initial phases of building this.

柯博拉：我認為他們正處於創建這個系統的早期初始階段。當太陽系的條件正確的時候，這可以很快完成。但是條件尚未完全準備好。但是現在我可以說，他們正處於建設這個項目的初期階段。

Debra:So,let's get an update on the conditions.Since much of the non-physical planes have been cleared,what is left to clear and is actually sustaining the powerbase of the dark forces still at this point?

黛布拉：那麼，讓我們瞭解一下最新的情況。既然大部分非物質層已經被清理乾淨，那麼還有什麼需要清理，而且實際上還在維持著黑暗勢力的動力基礎呢？

Cobra:I will not give any updates upon this before the meditation and the petition process is completed.

柯博拉：在冥想和請願過程完成之前，我不會給出任何更新。

Debra:Okay.But we can get something afterwards?

黛布拉：好吧。但是我們之後可以得到一些東西嗎？

Cobra:Yes.There will be an update after that at a certain point.

柯博拉：是的。在那之後的某個時刻會有一個更新。

Debra:Okay,good.Are you able to give us an update on the progress of the toplet bombs?Are they still the greatest obstacles to the Event?

黛布拉：好的，很好。你能告訴我們最新的拆除頂夸克炸彈進展嗎？它們仍然是事件的最大障礙嗎？

Cobra:Yes.They are still the greatest obstacles.Yes.

柯博拉：是的，他們仍然是最大的障礙。

Debra:Has there been any progress made on this?

黛布拉：這方面有什麼進展嗎？

Cobra:There is progress ongoing,but this is a very tough subject.I mean,it's really,this has been really tough clearing those toplet bombs.It's a challenge,but there's progress being made.

柯博拉：目前正在取得進展，但這是一個非常棘手的問題。我的意思是，這真的，這真的很難清除那些炸彈。這是個挑戰，但已經取得了一些進展。

Debra:Okay.So can you tell us,how do the Pleiadians and other Light Forces know how to address these esoteric,negative forces,such as the subquantum anomaly?Have they dealt with these types of things in the Pleiades or in their home planets?

黛布拉：好的。那麼你能告訴我們，昴宿星人和其他光之力是如何知道如何解決這些深奧的負面力量，比如亞量子異常嗎？他們在昴宿星團或者他們的母星上處理過這類事情嗎？

Cobra:They have been dealing with this for,I would say,even millions of years,but it was always a challenge because this is in a way very advanced,that the dark forces are using advanced technology,which uses those principles.And in a way it's very chaotic;primary anomaly is unpredictable.It's hard to study.It's hard to contain.It's hard to process.It's hard to clear.And I would say in the last few years,the progress of the Light Forces is much,much,much greater than it was ever in the past because they are learning key ingredients to this,because this is simply the last few things to clear.Everything else had been resolved in the galaxy.So this is the toughest,the most challenging part(s),and there is progress being made daily now.

柯博拉：他們處理這個問題已經有幾百萬年了，但這一直是個挑戰，因為這是一種非常先進的方式，黑暗勢力正在使用先進的技術，使用這些原理。在某種程度上，它是非常混亂的；主要異常是不可預測的。很難研究。難以控制。難以接受。很難清理。我想說，在過去的幾年裡，光之力量的進步比以往任何時候都要大得多，因為他們正在學習這方面的關鍵因素，因為這僅僅是最後幾件需要清理的事情。銀河系裏其他的一切都已經解決了。所以這是最困難，最具挑戰性的部分，現在每天都在取得進展。

Debra:Okay.Are you able to assure us that they will be able to clear this anomaly?

黛布拉：好的。你能向我們保證他們能夠清除這種異常現象嗎？

Cobra:They will be,yes.The question is only how we get to the point of the Event.I mean,we will get there,the road to get there is rough,but we are getting there slowly.

柯博拉：他們會的。問題是我們怎樣才能到達事件的關鍵點。我的意思是，我們會到達那裡，到達那裡的道路是崎嶇的，但是我們正在慢慢地到達那裡。

Debra:Yes.Can we talk about the Central Race?I know in one of our previous mass meditations,we got their attention.How are they involved with this now?And also people are curious what they look like.

黛布拉：是的。我們能談談中央種族嗎？我知道在我們之前的一次集體冥想中，我們引起了他們的注意。他們現在是怎麼參與進來的？人們也很好奇他們長什麼樣子。

Cobra:Yes,they are giving great assistance to the Galactic Confederation.They are giving great assistance with the Dyson Spheres,with clearing of the solar system,with clearing of the primary anomaly,of subquantum anomaly,of the toplet bombs.They are working with all this,and they are giving a lot of assistance to the whole process.

柯博拉：是的，他們給予銀河聯盟很大的幫助。他們在戴森球方面提供了巨大的幫助，清理了太陽系，清理了主要的異常，亞量子異常，頂夸克炸彈。他們致力於所有這些工作，他們在整個過程中提供了大量的幫助。

Debra:Okay,good.And can you give us a clue as to what they look like?

黛布拉：好的，很好。你能告訴我們他們長什麼樣嗎？

Cobra:It's hard to describe.They are very high dimensional beings.They don't manifest in shape and form.They have never been in the physical.So they are like more energetic beings.They are not physical.They don't have a concrete shape.They could of course take any shape they wanted if they chose to manifest,but they have never done that.

柯博拉：很難描述。它們是非常高維的生物。他們不會以形狀和形式顯現出來。它們從來沒有在實體中出現過。所以他們更像是能量的生物。他們不是物質上的。它們沒有具體的形狀。他們當然可以選擇任何他們想要的形狀，如果他們選擇顯化，但是他們從來沒有這樣做過。

Debra:That's exactly how I pictured them.Okay,thank you for answering that.Let's talk a little bit about the implants.You stated that the implants are not quantumly entangled anymore,and that the Light Forces have started with gradual clearing of these.As you know,there is an international group of us that conduct free implant clearing sessions for Lightworkers on an ongoing basis to help clear these.Can you tell us how these sessions are making an impact,both for the people that are attending and on a collective level?Back in May you stated,"Quantum fluctuation directly related to human implants and biochips are clearing better than expected.Spacetime distortion created by the implants and biochips is being reduced fast and drastically.And this has resulted in a significant decrease of human emotion volatility in the last few weeks."So Cobra,we are wondering if this confirms the effectiveness of these sessions?And are these sessions an important support for the Light Forces and planetary liberation?

黛布拉：這正是我想像中的他們。謝謝你回答這個問題。我們來談談植入物吧。你說過植入物不再是量子糾纏的了，光的力量已經開始逐漸清除這些糾纏。正如你所知道的，我們有一個國際組織，為光之工作者進行免費的植入物清理會議，以幫助清理這些物質。你能告訴我們這些會議是如何產生影響的嗎？無論是對參加會議的人還是在集體層面上？回到五月份，你曾說過，"與人體植入物和生物晶片直接相關的量子漲落比預期的更清晰。植入物和生物晶片造成的時空失真正在迅速而徹底地減少。在過去的幾週裡，這已經導致了人類情緒波動的顯著減少。"所以 Cobra，我們想知道這是否證實了這些療程的有效性？這些會議是對光之力量和行星解放的重要支持嗎？

Cobra:Yes,those sessions have assisted quite much,and I would encourage everybody who is involved in those sessions,if they feel so guided,to continue and actually to expand those sessions,because this is a really helpful tool for the Light Forces to clear implants faster and more efficiently.

柯博拉：是的，這些會議幫助很大，我會鼓勵每個參與這些會議的人，如果他們覺得自己受到了指導，繼續並實際上擴大這些會議，因為這是一個非常有用的工具，可以讓光明力量更快、更有效地清除植入物。

Debra:Okay,great.Thank you.I was going to ask if you felt that it was important that we continue these.Is there anything that we can do to add to these protocols to make them more effective and to accelerate the planetary liberation?

黛布拉：好的，很好。謝謝。我想問你是否覺得我們繼續這樣做很重要。我們能做些什麼來增加這些協議使它們更有效並加速行星的解放嗎？

Cobra:At this point,the protocols which are now in use are still okay.There might be an upgrade at some point after the meditation or there might not be,we will see how things develop.There is a possibility of a certain update.

柯博拉：在這一點上，現在正在使用的協議仍然沒有問題。冥想之後可能會有升級，也可能沒有，我們會看到事情的發展。有一種可能性是確定的更新。

Debra:Absolutely,sounds good.And you've stated before that the only location where toplet bombs still remain is within the implants inside the energy field of human beings,where a black hole singularity exists.So by doing these exercises to help dissolve our implants,are we in essence assisting the Light Forces in dissolving the remaining toplet bombs?

黛布拉：當然，聽起來不錯。你之前說過，炸彈殘留的唯一地點是人類能量場中的植入物，那裡存在著一個黑洞奇點。所以通過做這些練習來幫助溶解我們的植入物，我們實質上是在幫助光之力溶解剩餘的炸彈嗎？

Cobra:We are assisting them,for them it gets easier to access the toplet bombs.We are not dealing with the toplet bombs directly,it is simply too dangerous,but we are assisting the Light Forces to get better access to this and to approach this in a way that is safe and efficient.

柯博拉：我們正在協助他們，因為他們越來越容易接近炸彈了。我們沒有直接處理頂夸克炸彈，這實在是太危險了，但我們正在協助光明勢力獲得更好的途徑，並以一種安全和有效的方式處理這個問題。

Debra:Okay,good,good.We know that the implants cannot be fully removed until the Event,but for those people that attend on a regular basis,what are some of the benefits that they could experience?Are they actually dissolving their implants?

黛布拉：好，很好，很好。我們知道，植入物不能完全移除，直到事件，但是對於那些人來說，定期參加，他們可以經歷的一些好處是什麼？他們真的會溶解他們的植入物嗎？

Cobra:What people can achieve is deprogramming,dissolution of limiting belief systems,liberation of consciousness.That can definitely be a result of this clearing process.People can gather their experiences and they can post it somewhere for inspiration,people who are working on this.

柯博拉：人們可以實現的是解除程序，解散有限的信仰體系，解放意識。這肯定是這個清理過程的結果。人們可以收集他們的經驗，他們可以把它貼在某個地方尋找靈感，那些正在從事這方面工作的人。

Debra:Oh,that's a good idea,thank you.And we will share that with our audience.We've been asked before,are there also good implants?

黛布拉：哦，這是個好主意，謝謝。我們會和我們的觀眾分享的。之前有人問過我們，是否也有好的植入物？

Cobra:Can you repeat that question?

柯博拉：你能重複一下這個問題嗎？

Debra:Are there also good implants,positive ones that benefit us?

黛布拉：是否也有好的植入物，正面的植入物對我們有益？

Cobra:I would not call them good implants,but there were certain races which are in the intermediate state of development that are putting implants with good intention for communication,for scanning,for healing.This was done a lot in Atlantis.It was done also on the ships of certain extraterrestrial races,but I would say this is outdated and old technology.

柯博拉：我不認為他們是好的植入物，但是有一些種族處於居間態的發展中，他們植入的植入物具有良好的溝通、掃瞄和癒合的意圖。這在亞特蘭蒂斯做了很多。它也是在某些外星種族的飛船上完成的，但是我要說這是過時的技術。

Debra:Okay.I'd like to ask you a question about the Age of Aquarius.Last December solstice,we did a successful meditation and reached critical mass,and during our interview for that,you mentioned that if a critical mass was achieved,we might be able to see positive results within one to two months following.And of course,many people were expecting more utopian type results in 2021,rather than the chaos that has ensued.We understand that in the dismantling of the matrix some chaos is expected,but many are wondering how,and when,we will experience the energies of the Age of Aquarius?I would like to point out a statement you made in August that said,"After the purification of Rigelian forces that invaded Earth in 1996 is over by mid/late October,it will be expectedly much easier to manifest the dreams of the Age of Aquarius on the surface of the planet."So Cobra,could you elaborate on all this please?Will the Age of Aquarius naturally happen collectively on its own in its own time,or do we each have to make a proactive,committed effort to manifest it for ourselves in our own individual life?

黛布拉：好。我想問你一個關於水瓶座時代的問題。去年12月至日，我們做了一次成功的冥想，達到了臨界質量，在我們對此的採訪中，你提到，如果達到了臨界質量，我們可能會在一到兩個月內看到積極的結果。當然，許多人期待2021年會有更多烏托邦式的結果，而不是隨之而來的混亂。我們知道在分解矩陣的過程中會出現一些混亂，但是很多人想知道我們將如何以及何時體驗到水瓶座時代的能量？我想指出你在8月份所作的一項聲明："在1996年入侵地球的參宿七力量的淨化工作於10月中下旬結束之後，預計在地球表面實現水瓶座時代的夢想將會容易得多。"Cobra，你能詳細說明一下嗎？水瓶時代會自然而然地在它自己的時間內集體發生，還是我們每個人都必須做出積極主動的努力，在我們自己的個人生活中展現它？

Cobra:There are two factors involved here.The first one is there is simply more darkness than anybody expected,I expected,the Resistance Movement expected,or the Light Forces expected.And the second factor is there is less cooperation and more egoism and more stupidity among the Lightworkers than anybody expected.So those two factors combined have resulted in this process being less pleasant and more challenging than I initially expected.So it is hard to determine how this will play out,but I would say the more people hold the Light,the more people cooperate in a positive way,the more people develop and manifest common sense together with a spirit of cooperation,the more,the easier our roles will be.Of course,the dark forces will try to challenge that,this is their nature,this is a war,and of course they want to win when they're in the war,and they will do whatever they can to win.They will not win,but they will do whatever they can to disturb this process.But if we manifest more unity,that will be a very powerful protection against that.So it's a matter of two forces interacting.On the positive side,we have those Lightworkers who are cooperating and who are manifesting common sense.And on the other side,we have the dark forces that are already cooperating and that are using their strategy in a way that is much more efficient than I have seen among most of the Lightworkers.And then we have the Light Forces clearing the exotic technologies,and they cannot intervene directly before the threat of exotic technologies is removed.So this is the situation now.We have much power in our hands to make the rest of this journey easier.

柯博拉：這裡有兩個因素。第一個是黑暗比任何人預期的都要多，包括我，抵抗運動，或者是光明力量。第二個因素是，光之工作者之間的合作比任何人想像的都少，更加自私，更加愚蠢。所以這兩個因素結合在一起，導致這個過程比我最初預期的更不愉快，更具挑戰性。因此，很難確定這將如何發展，但我想說，越多的人掌握光，越多的人以積極的方式合作，越多的人發展和顯示常識與合作精神，我們的角色將越容易。當然，黑暗勢力會試圖挑戰這一點，這是他們的天性，這是一場戰爭，當然，他們在戰爭中想要贏得勝利，他們會盡一切努力去贏得勝利。他們不會贏，但是他們會盡一切努力來擾亂這個過程。但是如果我們表現出更多的團結，這將是一個非常有力的保護對抗。所以這是兩種力相互作用的問題。從積極的一面來看，我們有那些光之工作者，他們正在合作，他們正在顯示常識。另一方面，我們有黑暗勢力，他們已經在合作，他們正在以一種比我在大多數光之工作者中看到的更有效率的方式使用他們的策略。然後光明勢力清除了外來技術，在外來技術的威脅消除之前，他們不能直接干預。這就是現在的情況。我們手中握有很大的權力，可以讓接下來的旅程變得更加容易。

Debra:Well,you said something very important in terms of our unity is what will offer us powerful protection against the dark.And so that is a note that we really need to unite.

黛布拉：嗯，你說過一些非常重要的事情，關於我們的團結，是什麼將提供給我們對抗黑暗的強大保護。這就是我們真正需要團結的地方。

Cobra:Yes.And of course,most people will not take me seriously and they will still not cooperate,and we will have more mandates,more of the same until the breakthrough happens.This is most likely what would happen.I'm not very hopeful again,I have seen enough of human nature to see how people behave.But there'll be a point when enough of the negative,exotic technologies will be removed and the Light Forces will make the breakthrough,and then of course,this war will be over,it will not matter anymore,this will be a total game changer.

柯博拉：是的。當然，大多數人不會認真對待我，他們仍然不會合作，我們將有更多的授權，更多的相同，直到突破發生。這是最有可能發生的。我再次不抱希望了，我已經看到了足夠多的人性，看到了人們的行為。但總有一天，足夠多的負面的，奇異的技術會被光之力量移除會取得突破，然後，當然，這場戰爭將會結束，它將不再重要，這將是一個徹底的遊戲規則改變者。

Part 3:Current Events

第三部分：當前事件

Debra:I would like to talk to you about the current state of the planet,and you know,of course,the biggest topic everyone is talking about is the virus and all that's related to it.As you said,the dark is quite more powerful than anyone expected;so with this current timeline that we're on,are we heading to disaster?And if this is the case,can you tell us what is coming?What really is the probability that in our future we will experience a dystopian-type society of military-forced injections,quarantine camps,food shortages,AI takeover,etc.?

黛布拉：我想和你談談地球的現狀，當然，你知道，每個人都在談論的最大話題是病毒以及與之相關的一切。正如你所說，黑暗力量比任何人想像的都要強大；所以在我們現在所處的時間線上，我們是否正在走向災難？如果是這樣，你能告訴我們接下來會發生什麼嗎？真正的可能性是什麼，在我們的未來，我們將經歷一個反烏托邦式的社會，軍事強制注射，檢疫營地，糧食短缺，人工智能接管等等？

Cobra:We are not heading towards disaster;we are in a tug of war.We are now in a situation where both sides are equally powerful and are opposing the other.So the good guys are opposing all this and the bad guys want to manifest this.On one hand,we have a slow collapse of the society,on the other hand,we have a big awakening happening.People who haven't seen what's going on even a few months ago now are opening their eyes,and they see,and there is a massive positive non-compliance happening also at the same time.So we have a dynamic equilibrium between both dark and the Light agendas here.Both sides are quite powerful,and I expect this tension to continue until the breakthrough happens.At some point,there will be more of the dark appearing to win,at some point there will be more of the Light appearing to win,and this equilibrium,these strong opposing forces in my expectations will continue like this until the breakthrough.And,of course,we are not going back into the old normal,this is not going to happen,this went too far.The old society has reached a point of no return in the summer of 2019 already,and this cannot be reversed,the only way is up,the only way is towards the Event.

柯博拉：我們並沒有走向災難，我們正處於一場拔河比賽中。我們現在的處境是雙方勢均力敵。所以好人反對這一切，而壞人想要證明這一點。一方面，我們的社會慢慢崩潰，另一方面，我們有一個巨大的覺醒發生。那些幾個月前還不知道發生了什麼的人現在睜開了眼睛，他們看到了，同時也發生了大量積極的不合規行為。所以我們在黑暗和光明的議程之間有一個動態平衡。雙方都非常強大，我希望這種緊張關係能夠持續下去，直到取得突破。在某些時候，會有更多的黑暗勢力似乎要贏，在某些時候會有更多的光明勢力似乎要贏，而這種平衡，這些強大的對立勢力在我的預期中會一直這樣，直到突破。當然，我們不會回到過去的常態，這不會發生，這已經走得太遠了。舊社會在2019年的夏天已經到了一個不可逆轉的地步，這是不可逆轉的，唯一的出路是向上，唯一的出路是走向盛會。

Debra:So really,how far we descend into this dystopian society really kind of depends on...you said that the balance and the tipping of the scales to be more in favor of the Light.

黛布拉：所以說真的，我們墮落到這個反烏托邦社會的程度取決於......你說天平的平衡和傾斜更傾向於光明。

Cobra:If people get oppressed,they need to resist that oppression.I mean,peacefully,coherently,massively.If people say nothing,if people just comply,then it's easier for the dark forces to implement those measures.

柯博拉：如果人們受到壓迫，他們需要抵制這種壓迫。我的意思是，和平的，連貫的，大規模的。如果人們什麼都不說，如果人們只是服從，那麼黑暗勢力就更容易實施這些措施。

Debra:Do you see more and more people waking up as time progresses and the awakening building?

黛布拉：隨著時間的推移，你看到越來越多的人醒來了嗎？

Cobra:I can see more people coming to a realization that something is not right,something is going on,people are beginning to question things.Of course,the alternative media has been poisoned with so much disinformation and when people begin to read all those articles and look at all of those videos,they get more confused,but at least they begin to question the official narrative,they begin to think,they begin to want to make their own choices,which is a very positive occurrence.It hasn't ever happened on such a massive scale before,this is the first time in human history we have hundreds of millions,if not billions of people for the first time questioning the official story.This has never happened before.

柯博拉：我看到越來越多的人開始意識到有些事情不對勁，有些事情正在發生，人們開始質疑。當然，另類媒體已經被如此多的虛假信息毒害了，當人們開始閲讀所有這些文章，看所有這些視頻時，他們變得更加困惑，但至少他們開始質疑官方的敘述，他們開始思考，他們開始想要做出自己的選擇，這是一個非常積極的事件。以前從未發生過如此大規模的事件這是人類歷史上第一次有數億人甚至數十億人第一次質疑官方說法。這種情況以前從未發生過。

Debra:Okay.In July you stated that"a consensus has been reached within the Confederation that a drastic intervention will take place at the right moment on the surface of the planet.Not much can be said about this at the moment,apart from the fact that if the Cabal crosses a certain line,the intervention will come sooner and it will be harsher."So is this the intervention that we are meditating for on December 21st?And has that line been crossed?

黛布拉：好的。7月，你指出，"聯盟內部已達成共識，將在地球表面的適當時機進行激烈干預。除了如果陰謀集團越過某條線，干預將會來得更快，而且會更加嚴厲這一事實之外，目前對此沒有什麼可說的。"那麼，這就是我們在12月21日所考慮的干預嗎？是否已經越過了這條界限？

Cobra:Okay.I would say the Light Forces did a mistake by issuing that statement and not understanding how life really is on the surface of the planet.They can have all the mathematical models of what is the tipping point,but for us on the surface is a different story.This is real life rather than just a graph on the wall,a graph on the screen,you know,so I would say that from the perspective of the surface population,the line has been crossed many times over.But they are dealing with a different scenarios,they're dealing with the different realities,they are dealing with preventing the explosion of the toplet bombs,and keeping the planet intact in one piece without the surface being wiped out,and they are preventing those kinds of scenarios.So I would not try to even speculate and guess where that line is,but I know it exists.

柯博拉：好的。我認為光之力量犯了一個錯誤，他們發表了這樣的聲明，卻不瞭解地球表面的生命是如何存在的。他們可以得到引爆流行的所有數學模型，但對我們來說，表面上的情況就不同了。這是真實的生活，而不僅僅是牆上的圖表，屏幕上的圖表，你知道，所以我想說，從地表人口的角度來看，這條線已經跨越了很多次。但是他們面對的是不同的情況，他們面對的是不同的現實，他們面對的是防止炸彈的爆炸，他們面對的是保持地球完整，而不是地球表面被毀滅，他們正在防止這種情況的發生。所以我不會試圖去推測和猜測這條線在哪裡，但我知道它是存在的。

Debra:Do you have any idea how far they will let us into that dystopian society before they take that dramatic action that they mentioned?

黛布拉：你知道在他們採取他們提到的戲劇性行動之前，他們會讓我們走多遠進入那個反烏托邦社會嗎？

Cobra:I don't want to comment on this.It's not something that I would like to.

柯博拉：我不想評論這件事，我不想評論這件事。

Debra:Okay.Can you tell us what the action would be by them?

黛布拉：好的。你能告訴我們他們的行動是什麼嗎？

Cobra:There are certain scenarios that are classified,I cannot talk about,but I would say,certain things are being prepared,but I don't want to give unnecessary hope.I don't want to create more speculation that might lead to nothing productive.

柯博拉：有些情況是保密的，我不能說，但我想說，有些事情已經準備好了，但我不想給不必要的希望。我不想製造更多可能導致毫無成效的猜測。

Debra:Right.Okay,I understand.Obviously,people are feeling the tension and we're all witnessing the panic and desperation of the dark.Would you say that based on that representation you showed us of the nucleation phases,would you say that we are at the boiling point?

黛布拉：對。好的，我明白了。顯然，人們感受到了壓力我們都見證了黑暗的恐慌和絶望。你會說，基於你給我們展示的成核階段，你會說我們正處於沸點嗎？

Cobra:Yes,we are in the last phase before the breakthrough,before the maximum terminal flux,which is the Event.So we are in that last phase,and the thermal flux is accelerating,which you can actually experience.All that tension that is felt is actually more and more energies flowing,more and more,I would say in terms of physics,more and more thermal flux occurring in the system.And it's increasing and it will keep increasing until the Event.So there will be more tension,more dynamic forces in play,until something breaks and that will be the moment of the Event.

柯博拉：是的，我們處於突破之前的最後階段，在最大末端通量之前，也就是事件。我們正處於最後一個階段，熱通量正在加速，你可以體驗到這一點。所有感覺到的張力實際上是越來越多的能量流動，越來越多，我想說，從物理學的角度來看，越來越多的熱通量發生在系統中。它在不斷增加，並且會一直增加，直到事件發生。所以會有更多的緊張，更多的動態力量在起作用，直到某些東西破裂，這就是事件發生的時刻。

Debra:Can you give us an idea of approximately how long we'll have to be in this boiling point?And as you say,"Hold on a little longer and withstand the siege"?

黛布拉：你能給我們一個大概的概念，我們要在這個沸點待多久？就像你說的"再堅持一會兒，抵擋住圍攻"？

Cobra:No.No.I would say the best,if you are a situation like this,the common strategic sense would be to keep holding the Light,no matter how long it takes.Because if you let it go right now,if you surrender right now to this chaos,then it's not going to be fine.You need to keep your focus,you need to keep your light ongoing,holding that tension,holding that consciousness,that focus,until the breakthrough happens.

柯博拉：不。不。我想說，最好的情況是，如果你處在這樣的情況下，通常的戰略意識是，不管需要多長時間，都要保持光明。因為如果你現在放手，如果你現在屈服於這種混亂，事情就不會好起來。你需要保持專注，你需要讓你的光持續，保持緊張，保持意識，保持專注，直到突破發生。

Debra:Okay.We do see the population that they're dividing into two;those who can clearly see the intentions of the deception taking place,and those who cannot see it for what it is.So if the Event cannot happen for some time,what is the Plan B of the Light Forces to help people who do not want to be a part of the world run by merciless Cabal?

黛布拉：好的。我們確實看到了他們一分為二的人口；那些可以清楚地看到欺騙發生的意圖的人，以及那些看不到它的本質的人。那麼，如果事件在一段時間內不能發生，那麼光之軍的B計劃是什麼，以幫助那些不想成為無情陰謀集團統治的世界的一部分的人？

Cobra:There is no Plan B.This is now the Gamma timeline,which calls for direct intervention.Since a few years ago,we were on Gamma timeline and this needs to happen,so there is no Plan B.It just needs to unravel until its final resolution.

柯博拉：沒有 B 計劃。這是伽馬時間線，需要直接干預。幾年前，我們在伽馬時間線上，這是必須的，所以沒有 B 計劃。它只需要解開，直到最終解決。

Debra:And what did you say?It calls for what?

黛布拉：你說什麼？需要什麼？

Cobra:We are in this Gamma timeline;we need to keep on going until the intervention happens.

柯博拉：我們在伽馬時間線上；我們需要繼續前進，直到介入發生。

Debra:Okay.Understood.

黛布拉：好的，明白。

Cobra:People are waiting passively for the Event;this is not what I'm saying.I'm saying that you need to do whatever you can to make your life better,to manifest as good a life as possible,and in the circumstances that they are right now.But the Event is the final goal.We have been born for something greater.We have this higher purpose in mind as well.So both.This moment,live as good as possible,do your mission,and live your life in a way that is aligned with your divine plans.

柯博拉：人們在被動地等待事件的發生；我不是這個意思。我的意思是，你需要盡你所能讓你的生活變得更好，儘可能地展現出一種美好的生活，在現在這種情況下。但事件才是最終目標。我們生來就是為了更偉大的事業。我們心中也有一個更高的目標。所以兩者都是。此時此刻，儘可能好地生活，完成你的使命，以一種與你的神聖計劃相一致的方式生活。

Debra:Okay.And what about people that are speaking up?You know,there's protests taking place all over the world to counteract the mandates and lockdowns.Would you talk about these huge demonstrations and tell us how effective they are?Are they getting the attention of the politicians and people in power?And do these help the energy of the Light Forces?

黛布拉：好的。那麼那些站出來說話的人呢？你知道，世界各地都在舉行抗議活動來抵消強制命令和封鎖。你能談談這些大規模的示威活動並告訴我們它們有多有效嗎？他們是否引起了政治家和當權者的注意？這些對光明力量的能量有幫助嗎？

Cobra:Of course,the politicians are aware of all those demonstrations.Of course,they will ignore them.Of course,they will do nothing.They will pretend nothing is happening because they want to keep their positions,they want to keep their power.But energetically speaking,the coherence of the field is rising,the power of human consciousness against this New World Order takeover is rising,it's increasing in power until the breakthrough.So this is the counter force which prevents all those negative scenarios,like concentration camps,etcetera,from actually manifesting.It keeps them at bay.

柯博拉：當然，政客們知道所有這些示威活動。當然，他們不會理會。當然，他們什麼也不會做。他們會假裝什麼都沒發生，因為他們想保住自己的位置，保住自己的權力。但是從能量上來說，這個領域的凝聚力正在上升，人類意識反對新世界秩序接管的力量正在上升，它的力量正在上升，直到突破。所以這是一種反作用力，它阻止了所有負面情景，比如集中營等等，真正地顯現出來。它讓它們遠離我們。

Debra:Okay,good.Is it likely that we'll get to a point where there's a global revolution on such a grand scale that it would bring some of the negative elites to their knees before the Event?

黛布拉：好的，很好。我們是否有可能達到這樣一個程度：全球範圍內發生如此大規模的革命，以至於一些消極的精英階層會在事件發生前屈服？

Cobra:It is a possibility,as I said,it's a dynamic scenario with many rips and undercurrents and anything is possible.There was one possibility for a major revolution and an occurrence breaking through in September,which did not manifest,which is better because it was more peaceful.It could be quite violent,and we could not be having this conversation right now if it manifested.So if this revolutionary timeline manifests,it will be quite drastic,dynamic.It can have various outcomes.Some of them are pleasant,some of them are less pleasant.So we will see,it's impossible to predict,there are too many variables in this situation right now.

柯博拉：這是有可能的，就像我說的，這是一個動態的場景，有很多裂縫和暗流，一切皆有可能。有一種可能性是在九月發生一場大革命和一個突破性的事件，但這種可能性並沒有顯現出來，這種可能性更好，因為它更加和平。它可能是相當暴力的，如果它表現出來，我們現在就不可能進行這樣的對話。所以如果這個革命性的時間線顯現出來，它將是相當激烈的，動態的。可能會有各種各樣的結果。有些是令人愉快的，有些則不那麼令人愉快。所以我們將看到，這是不可能預測的，在這種情況下有太多的變數。

Debra:We know that the Light Forces are doing whatever they can to make sure that the transition is as smooth as possible with the matrix collapsing.What can we do here on the surface of the planet to help with that?

黛布拉：我們知道光之力量正在盡一切努力確保在矩陣崩潰的情況下過渡儘可能平穩。我們在地球表面能做些什麼來幫助它呢？

Cobra:Okay.I will again say common sense.Common sense is very much needed.Everybody's so emotionally polarized and so easily swept with this current negativity in one way or the other.So common sense is very much needed.And a spirit of cooperation,which has been almost completely lost.The surface population never really understood how it is to cooperate.That is something that is completely natural in the rest of the universe.We are going to learn to cooperate.That's very important.

柯博拉：好的。我再說一遍常識。常識是非常必要的。每個人的情感都是兩極分化的，並且很容易被當前的消極情緒以這樣或那樣的方式席捲。所以常識是非常必要的。還有一種合作精神，幾乎已經完全喪失了。地表居民從未真正理解如何合作。這在宇宙的其他地方是完全自然的。我們要學會合作。這很重要。

Debra:Right.So let's get back to what's going on right on the surface.Can we assume that the Delta Option is no longer a possibility and that we are just going to go straight into the Event?Or is the Delta Option actually taking place already?

黛布拉：對。讓我們回到表面上發生了什麼。我們是否可以假設 Delta 選項不再是一種可能性，我們只是直接進入事件？或者 Delta 選項實際上已經發生了？

Cobra:No,that Delta option is still remotely possible,but not very likely.It was not triggered,because there were certain discussions to trigger this in January and February of this year when there were certain occurrences taking place,but the key people who would need to be part of this operation had too many weaknesses,they were too compromised,and the Light Forces have decided not to initiate them for that particular reason.Some of those weaknesses of those people are being exposed right now as I speak,in certain circles people might know what I'm talking about.

柯博拉：沒有，Delta 選項仍然是遙遠的可能性，但不太可能。它沒有被觸發，因為今年1月和2月進行了某些討論，以觸發這一行動，當時發生了某些事件，但需要參與這一行動的關鍵人物有太多的弱點，他們受到了太多的損害，光明勢力因為這一特殊原因決定不啟動這些行動。就在我說話的時候，這些人的一些弱點正在暴露出來，在某些圈子裡，人們可能知道我在說什麼。

Debra:Interesting.You've said that the"Great Reset"proposed by the Cabal would not be successful,which is good news,and that the new financial system would be fair to everyone.Would you share if the planned financial system has changed from what you told us a few years ago?

黛布拉：有意思。你說過陰謀集團提出的"大重置"不會成功，這是個好消息，新的金融體系對每個人都是公平的。如果計劃中的金融體系與你幾年前告訴我們的相比有所改變，你會與我們分享嗎？

Cobra:The basic plan is still the same.There might be some technical improvements because the world has changed a bit,but the basic plan is still the same.

柯博拉：基本計劃還是一樣的。可能會有一些技術上的改進，因為世界已經發生了一些變化，但是基本計劃仍然是一樣的。

Debra:Okay.And,as usual,there are people in the alternative media that say that mass arrests are happening,but you have stated many times that mass arrests will happen only at the time of the Event.

黛布拉：好的。和往常一樣，有人在另類媒體上說，大規模逮捕正在發生，但你已經多次聲明，大規模逮捕只會在事件發生時發生。

Cobra:They will happen at the time of the Event and there will be evidence,it will be in the mass media.It will not be on some obscure-alternative website without proof.It will be very much evident;it will be everywhere.

柯博拉：他們會在事件發生的時候發生，而且會有證據，會在大眾媒體上出現。它不會出現在沒有證據的模糊的替代網站上。它將是非常明顯的，它將無處不在。

Debra:Okay.And you've also stated that the Positive Military will NOT move before all extraterrestrial and subterranean threats are removed,and most exotic weapons are removed from the surface.Can you speak a little more about the update of the removal of these things?Is that what we're going to get after the activation on the 21st?

黛布拉：好的。你也說過，在所有地外和地下的威脅被消除之前，正面軍是不會行動的，而且大多數外來武器都被從地表移除了。你能談談這些東西的最新消除情況嗎？這就是我們在21號激活之後會得到的嗎？

Cobra:After the activation,because activation is changing certain things and I would like to do an update after this is done.

柯博拉：在激活之後，因為激活正在改變某些事情，我想在這之後做一個更新。

Debra:Okay,and we are trusting that those changes will be very positive and there will be very great news with that one.What about the seismic activity around the world that some are speculating are related to further activity in the DUMBS?Can you elaborate what may be happening?We've been doing meditations for the hostages in the underground bases.What is the status of clearing these of both human and extraterrestrial hostages?

黛布拉：好的，我們相信這些變化將是非常積極的，而且會有非常好的消息。世界各地的地震活動是否與 DUMBS 的進一步活動有關？你能詳細描述一下可能發生的事情嗎？我們一直在為地下基地的人質做冥想。清除人質和外星人質的情況如何？

Cobra:The process is ongoing.I would say a vast majority of this has been cleared already,but not all of it.So compared to what was the situation last year,it's a huge,huge progress.

柯博拉：行動正在進行中。我想說大部分已經被清除了，但不是全部。所以與去年的情況相比，這是一個巨大的進步。

Debra:Very good.So it looks like the meditations are helping

黛布拉：很好，看起來冥想起作用了

Cobra:Yes,very much so.

柯博拉：是的，非常有幫助。

Debra:Very good.And some respected alternative news sources are saying that in the United States there are hospitals that have whole sections that are closed.And in these areas of the hospitals there are med beds and that the rescued children[and adults are being helped there].

黛布拉：很好。一些受人尊敬的新聞來源說，在美國，有些醫院的整個部門都是關閉的。在醫院的這些區域有醫療床，獲救的兒童（和成年人正在那裡得到幫助）。

Cobra:Not true.

柯博拉：不對。

Debra:Okay.Thank you for clarifying that.And you talked in the past how America is"The New Atlantis"with support from St.Germain in freeing America from the mind control and corruption that has been going on for about 150 years here.Why is the United States important in freeing the planet?

黛布拉：好的。謝謝你澄清這一點。你曾經說過美國是"新亞特蘭蒂斯"在聖哲曼的支持下使美國擺脫了150年來一直存在的思想控制和腐敗。為什麼美國在解放地球上如此重要？

Cobra:Yes,actually St.Germain has been very active more than 200 years ago in the United States to set a foundation for the New Atlantis,for new society.He was involved in the creation of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence,and that is a very solid foundation.If used properly,it could already bring the new society.But again,people are imperfect,so that's why it takes time.But the foundation is very solid,it is still there,and it has a huge potential in the coming years when things change.

柯博拉：是的，實際上聖哲曼(st.Germain)在200多年前在美國一直非常活躍，為新亞特蘭蒂斯(New Atlantis)和新社會奠定基礎。他參與了美國憲法的制定和美國獨立宣言的發表，這是一個非常堅實的基礎。如果運用得當，它已經可以帶來新的社會。但是，人是不完美的，這就是為什麼它需要時間。但是基礎是非常堅實的，它仍然存在，並且在未來幾年當事情發生變化的時候，它有著巨大的潛力。

Debra:And St.Germain also has connections to France,because you mentioned that the United States and France are really central to planetary liberation.Is this why France is also important?

黛布拉：聖哲曼(st.Germain)也和法國有聯繫，因為你提到美國和法國是行星解放的中心。這就是為什麼法國也很重要嗎？

Cobra:Yes,Saint Germain was active in France and also serving other people,certain other groups,which are quite important.Paris in France is a very important trigger point which might accelerate things when the time is right.

柯博拉：是的，聖哲曼在法國很活躍，也為其他人服務，某些其他的團體，這是非常重要的。法國的巴黎是一個非常重要的觸發點，當時機成熟的時候，它可能會加速事情的發展。

Debra:Okay.And what can you tell us about the Queen of England?It appears that she's quite weak and perhaps has died.Ben Fulford recently made it appear that the Queen is a"good guy".So what is happening there with the Queen of England?The British Royal family appears to be in transition.So can you talk about this at all?

黛布拉：好的。你能告訴我們關於英國女王的事嗎？看起來她很虛弱，可能已經死了。本·富爾福德最近表示，女王是個"好人"。那麼英國女王到底是怎麼回事呢？英國王室似乎正處於過渡期。你能談談這件事嗎？

Cobra:I would say there have been certain negotiations and certain changes happening between different factions of the Cabal.The Jesuit faction wants depopulation of the Earth.And the Rothschilds are more inclined towards the Great Reset,Klaus Schwab-type Great Reset"You will own nothing and you will be happy",more like a techno-feudalism type of society without mass exterminations.And the Rothschilds therefore see themselves as the"good guys",and as the"good guys",the Queen of England is very much connected to the Rothschilds,and she sees herself as a good person actually,because she's against the depopulation of the Earth.Of course,we will not agree with her assessment of the situation.There has been a lot of propaganda from the Rothschilds in the last week or so about this,and of course,I will take this with a grain of salt.This is not exactly the type of future we want to manifest.We are speaking about real life and a real Galactic society.We are not speaking about their type of techno-feudalist dystopian society they want to create.

柯博拉：我認為陰謀集團的不同派別之間已經進行了某些談判和某些變化。耶穌會派系希望地球人口減少。羅斯柴爾德家族更傾向於大重置，克勞斯•施瓦布(Klaus schwab)式的大重置"你將一無所有，你將感到幸福"，更像是一個沒有大規模滅絶的技術封建主義社會。因此，羅斯柴爾德家族認為自己是"好人"，作為"好人"，英國女王與羅斯柴爾德家族關係密切，她認為自己實際上是個好人，因為她反對地球人口減少。當然，我們不會同意她對形勢的評價。過去一週左右，羅斯柴爾德家族對此進行了大量宣傳，當然，我對此持保留態度。這並不完全是我們想要展現的未來。我們談論的是真實的生活和一個真實的銀河社會。我們不是在談論他們想要創造的那種技術封建主義的反烏托邦社會。

Debra:Is one side or the other stronger?One side you said was looking for depopulation,and the other side is looking for more of almost like a communist socialist society.

黛布拉：是一邊強還是另一邊強？你說的一方在尋求人口減少，而另一方在尋求更像是一個共產主義社會主義社會。

Cobra:Well,it's about half-half right now.(Ok)But this can change.This is the situation right at this moment,but this can change.

柯博拉：嗯，現在大約是一半。（好的）但是這可以改變。現在的情況就是這樣，但這是可以改變的。

Debra:Yes.Well,we want both of them to go away,so that's the change we're looking for.

黛布拉：是的。嗯，我們希望他們兩個都消失，所以這就是我們要找的改變。

Cobra:Both of them WILL go away.

柯博拉：他們兩個都會消失。

Debra:Yes.Would you elaborate on what would be important to share regarding the Ghislaine Maxwell trial and it's significance at this point?

黛布拉：是的。你能詳細說明一下在吉斯蘭·麥斯韋爾案件中有哪些重要信息需要分享，以及這些信息在當前的重要意義嗎？

Cobra:Yes,actually that is a very good opportunity for certain things to come into mainstream media,and probably some of them will come in the mainstream media.It will be reported and there will be a lot of talk about it.This is a good potential for the next step of disclosure or exposure of what's happening behind the scenes in the Cabal.And this can serve as another trigger for awakening,for people to see what is really going on on this planet.

柯博拉：是的，實際上這是一個非常好的機會，讓某些東西進入主流媒體，而且可能其中一些會進入主流媒體。它會被報導，會有很多關於它的討論。這是揭露或曝光陰謀集團幕後真相的下一步良好潛力。這可以作為另一個覺醒的觸發器，讓人們看到這個星球上到底發生了什麼。

Debra:So you're saying that the Cabal media will actually report some truth?

黛布拉：你是說陰謀集團媒體會報導一些真相？

Cobra:They will be forced to because it will be everywhere.I mean,there are enough journalists,there is enough awareness right now,that this cannot be swept under the rug.It cannot be hidden anymore.

柯博拉：他們會被迫這樣做，因為它將無處不在。我的意思是，現在有足夠多的記者，足夠多的人意識到，這不能被掩蓋起來。不能再隱瞞下去了。

Debra:Okay,good.What about Elon Musk?He's gone back and forth between working for the Light,working for the dark.What is the Starlink connected to?

黛布拉：好的，很好。那伊隆·馬斯克呢？他在為光明工作和為黑暗工作之間來回奔波。星鏈和什麼有關？

Cobra:Starlink is actually not a good idea.It's been used by the Chimera to reinforce the quarantine.Elon Musk is sometimes simply too naive.He has certain good ideas,but he is easily manipulated.He doesn't have bad intentions at his core,but he has been manipulated.Certain decisions that he made were not exactly very bright.

柯博拉：星鏈實際上不是個好主意。它被奇美拉用來加強隔離。伊隆·馬斯克有時候太天真了。他有一些好的想法，但是他很容易被操縱。他的內心並沒有惡意，但是他已經被操縱了。他做出的某些決定並不是很明智。

Debra:Thank you for sharing that.What about 5G technologies?Should we be concerned about that anymore at this point?

黛布拉：謝謝你的分享。那麼5G技術呢？我們現在還應該關注它嗎？

Cobra:Of course,it's not the healthiest and the best,but I would not be overly concerned at this point.I would be more concerned about the things I was talking about–about common sense,about cooperation,about manifesting a new world.This is something that people need to focus upon.

柯博拉：當然，它不是最健康和最好的，但是在這一點上我不會過分擔心。我會更關心我所談論的事情——關於常識，關於合作，關於顯現一個新世界。這是人們需要關注的東西。

Debra:Good point.You've mentioned cyberattacks before as being a good possibility in our future.Are those still on the agenda,are they a concern?

黛布拉：說得好。你之前提到過網路攻擊是我們未來的一個很好的選擇。那些還在議程上嗎，他們是否值得關注？

Cobra:Yes,they are still on the agenda of the dark forces.They have plans to manifest this,but the Light Forces are working against this as well,so we will see.

柯博拉：是的，他們仍然在黑暗勢力的議程上。他們計劃顯化這一點，但是光明力量也在反對這一點，所以我們拭目以待。

Debra:Okay.Let's talk about the Congo vortex.Is that still the master key for the energy grid around the planet?And what is the status of it?

黛布拉：好的。我們來談談剛果漩渦。這仍然是全球能量網路的關鍵嗎？現在是什麼情況？

Cobra:It is one of the master keys.It has been partially damaged again.The Light Forces are working on it,but it's not in excellent condition,it is not.So there needs to be some healing work done on this vortex.

柯博拉：這是一把萬能鑰匙。它又部分損壞了。光之力量正在對它進行修復，但它的狀況並不是很好。所以這個漩渦需要一些治療工作。

Debra:Okay.Are there places in the world where negative entities and elites take refuge together?We ask this because we would like to know where to make Buddhic Columns to help the Light Forces to cleanse energetically.

黛布拉：好的。世界上有沒有一些地方是負面實體和精英們共同避難的地方？我們問這個問題是因為我們想知道在哪裡建造菩提光束來幫助光明力量進行能量的淨化。

Cobra:Well,there are locations around the world where there is a tendency for the entities to gather.I would not specify those locations because this is not for the mass humanity right now to put focus upon.At some point if people would like to clear this with Buddhic Columns,people can contact me,or the key persons can contact me,and I can give some of the locations to be cleared,but this is not to be shared with the public right now.

柯博拉：嗯，世界上有些地方，存在著實體聚集的趨勢。我不會詳細說明這些地點，因為這不是大規模人類現在關注的焦點。在某個時候，如果人們想用菩提光柱來清理這個，人們可以聯繫我，或者關鍵人物可以聯繫我，我可以給出一些需要清理的地點，但是現在不能與公眾分享。

Debra:Yes,thank you,I was just going to ask you if we could contact you directly to find out,so thank you.So the insanity of the current agenda is helping people to wake up,but it's happening at a slow rate considering the circumstances and dangers that are around us.We know that waking people up helps to bring planetary liberation sooner,and many of us are doing our best,but we are labeled crazy and"conspiracy theorists"when we try to explain about the war that we're in.How can we best open the eyes of others to what is going on in the world?

黛布拉：是的，謝謝你，我只是想問你我們是否可以直接聯繫你來瞭解情況，所以謝謝你。所以當前的瘋狂議程正在幫助人們清醒過來，但是考慮到我們周圍的環境和危險，它發生的速度很慢。我們知道，喚醒人們有助於更快地帶來地球的解放，我們中的許多人都在盡最大努力，但當我們試圖解釋我們所處的戰爭時，我們被貼上了瘋狂和"陰謀論者"的標籤。我們怎樣才能最好地讓別人看到世界上正在發生的事情？

Cobra:You cannot,you cannot open the eyes of others.They need to do this for themselves.And you will be labelled"conspiracy theorists"if you try to open the eyes of another person who is not ready for it.So I would say you can share this,but share it only with those who are ready.You don't force this upon anybody because many are simply not ready.

柯博拉：你不能，你不能睜開別人的眼睛。他們需要為自己這樣做。如果你試圖打開另一個沒有準備好的人的眼睛，你會被貼上"陰謀論者"的標籤。所以我想說你可以分享這個，但是只能分享給那些準備好的人。你不會強迫任何人這樣做，因為很多人根本就沒有準備好。

Debra:Yeah,because people get frustrated,and I feel like what you're telling us is it's most important to really keep our own vibration high and find our own joy in whatever way works for us.

黛布拉：是的，因為人們會感到沮喪，我覺得你告訴我們的是，最重要的是保持我們自己的振動高，並找到我們自己的快樂，無論什麼方式對我們有用。

Cobra:Yeah,if you are really successful in this,people will feel that you have a different vibration,that you are somehow different.They will go to you with their questions,and then you can explain to them what´s going on.

柯博拉：是的，如果你在這方面真的很成功，人們會覺得你有一種不同的振動，你在某種程度上是不同的。他們會向你提出問題，然後你可以向他們解釋發生了什麼。

Part 4:The Event and Ascension

第四部分：事件與揚升

Debra:I'd like to move on to talking about the Event and Ascension.What are some of the signs that we're getting close to the Event?Are we starting to see them now?

黛布拉：我想繼續談論事件和揚升。有什麼跡象表明我們正在接近這個事件？我們現在看到它們了嗎？

Cobra:Not yet.As I said,this will be very much visible a few weeks before the Event,not before.

柯博拉：還沒有。正如我所說，事件前幾個星期將是非常明顯的，而不是之前。

Debra:Okay.And I have to just ask this right away too,because this is the one question that everybody is wondering…the question here:Are you able to share with us an updated Ascension Plan?

黛布拉：好的。我也必須馬上問這個問題，因為這是每個人都想知道的一個問題...這裡的問題是：你能和我們分享一個最新的揚升計劃嗎？

Cobra:I will be able to share that when I will be able to share that,and not before.

柯博拉：我將能夠分享，當我將能夠分享，而不是之前。

Debra:Okay.The time frame?Are we talking after the Solstice meditation?

黛布拉：好的。時間框架？我們是在冬至冥想之後討論嗎？

Cobra:I am not saying anything.Whenever they give the green light,they will give the green light.And when they give the green light,I will share it.Not before.

柯博拉：我什麼都沒說。只要他們同意。當他們開綠燈的時候，我會分享。在那之前不行。

Debra:Okay.Can you at least tell us,since it's almost 2022 and the Event has not yet happened,does the Ascension window still close in July of 2025?

黛布拉：好吧。你能不能至少告訴我們，現在已經快2022年了，而且這個事件還沒有發生，揚升窗口在2025年7月還會關閉嗎？

Cobra:Actually it closes in August 2025,but yeah,this is the time when the portal closes.

柯博拉：實際上它將在2025年8月關閉，但是沒錯，這是傳送門關閉的時間。

Debra:Okay.So we do know that things need to happen before that.Okay.Thank you for sharing that.So Lightworkers have had to endure much suffering while being here in 3D,often being denied financial resources,healthy bodies,ideal relationships,and many of the joys of living a life of freedom here on Earth.We know that all of that will change for us after the Event,but will there be time after the Event to enjoy our new 3D world before ascending into 5D?In the original Ascension Plan that you gave us,you said it was about one to two years between the breakthrough and the start of the First Wave.So people are wondering,will we be able to enjoy the benefits that the Event brings while we are still here in 3D Earth?

黛布拉：好。所以我們知道事情需要在那之前發生。好的。謝謝你的分享。因此，光之工作者在3D世界中不得不忍受許多痛苦，經常被剝奪了經濟資源、健康的身體、理想的人際關係以及在地球上自由生活的許多樂趣。我們知道這一切都將在事件之後改變，但是事件之後會有時間在提升到5D之前享受我們新的3D世界嗎？在你給我們的最初的揚升計劃中，你說從突破到第一波的開始大約需要一到兩年的時間。所以人們想知道，當我們還在3D 地球上的時候，我們是否能夠享受這個事件帶來的好處呢？

Cobra:The plan is that everybody will be able to enjoy enough time in a physical reality before the Ascension to integrate whatever they need to integrate.I will not give any timing right now for obvious reasons,but I would say that it's part of the growth process for everybody to have a joyful physical life for a certain amount of time that is necessary before the Ascension.

柯博拉：計劃是每個人都能夠在揚升之前在物質實相中享受足夠的時間來整合他們需要整合的任何東西。出於顯而易見的原因，我現在不會給出任何時間，但是我想說，在揚升之前的一定時間裡，每個人都有一個快樂的物質生活，這是成長過程的一部分。

Debra:Yeah,because people feel like they've waited a long time for some of these joys to come to them.So as we understand it,we will ascend in our physical bodies.So does that mean once we have ascended to 5D,that we will still be able to enjoy physical type things,such as eating a fine meal,doing your favorite hobbies,dancing,lovemaking…?

黛布拉：是的，因為人們覺得他們已經等待了很長時間，等待這些快樂降臨到他們身上。據我們所知，我們將在肉體中提升。那麼，這是否意味著，一旦我們提升到5D，我們仍然可以享受身體類型的事情，比如吃一頓豐盛的大餐，做你最喜歡的愛好，跳舞，做愛...？

Cobra:All that will happen before the Ascension.When the Ascension happens,you will have all that integrated.You have no more need for that,and you will have no more need for the physical body.You will be able to manifest the hologram of the physical body,but it will not be a real physical body.You will not be incarnation anymore because you will not need that anymore.

柯博拉：所有這些都會在揚升之前發生。當揚升發生的時候，你們將會把所有這些都整合起來。你不再需要這些，你也不再需要肉體。你將能夠顯化物質身體的全息圖，但它將不是一個真正的物質身體。你將不再是肉身，因為你不再需要肉身。

Debra:So you're saying when once Ascended,a lot of those things will not hold the same importance that they do now.

黛布拉：所以你是說，一旦揚升，很多事情就不會像現在這麼重要了。

Cobra:Exactly.Exactly.(Okay)We will have to accelerate the interview a little bit,maybe half an hour more,but then we'll have to finish.

柯博拉：沒錯。（好的）我們將不得不加快一點採訪，也許半個小時以上，但之後我們將不得不完成。

Debra:Okay,sounds good.I know there's so much to talk about here.Let's see…I know you mentioned that we will start to see,in terms of the Event,there will be a considerable escalation of events beforehand.So you were saying it'll be weeks[beforehand]?

黛布拉：好吧，聽起來不錯，我知道這裡有很多東西要談，讓我們看看......我知道你提到我們將開始看到，就事件而言，事件前將有相當多的升級。所以你說這將是[前]幾個星期？

Cobra:Yes.Yes,weeks.

柯博拉：是的，是的，幾個星期。

Debra:And will Lightworkers have a sense,telepathically or directly,before the Event happens?

黛布拉：在事件發生之前，光之工作者會有感覺嗎，心靈感應還是直接的？

Cobra:Oh yes,definitely.There will be people having visions,dreams,revelations,telepathic communication,all that will increase drastically before the Event.

柯博拉：哦，是的，當然。人們會有幻覺，夢境，啟示錄，心靈感應交流，所有這些在事件發生前都會急劇增加。

Debra:Ok,very good.And can you clarify if it's the Source that triggers the Event,or if it is the Light Forces?

黛布拉：好的，很好。你能說清楚是源頭觸發了事件，還是光明勢力觸發了事件？

Cobra:The initial pulse comes directly from the Source and then it filters down through the dimensions through the Light Forces until it reaches the surface of the planet.

柯博拉：最初的脈衝直接來自源頭，然後它通過光明勢力滲透到各個維度直到它到達行星的表面。

Debra:Okay.So you're saying it's triggered initially by Source?

黛布拉：好的。所以你是說它最初是由本源觸發的？

Cobra:Yes.

Cobra:是的。

Debra:Okay,that's what we thought.So with all of the negative technology that's being used against Lightworkers,we see that the work that we've been doing on ourselves over the years is being hindered.Will we benefit from all this work that we're doing after the Event?

黛布拉：好的，我們也是這麼想的。因此，隨著所有的負面技術被用來對抗光之工作者，我們看到我們多年來對自己所做的工作正在受到阻礙。我們會從事件之後所做的這些工作中獲益嗎？

Cobra:Yes,of course.Yes,of course,definitely.

柯博拉：是的，當然。是的，當然，肯定。

Debra:What would be the concrete fruit of this persistent Lightwork?

黛布拉：這個持久的光之工作的具體成果是什麼？

Cobra:First you will be among the first who will have the opportunity to Ascend.You will have much more possibilities than anybody else,because people will need to go through their healing process,and those who have done their healing process already will have much less to go through.They will be enjoying their lives when the rest of the people will be processing their suppressed emotions quite intensively.Everybody will have to go through this process.There is no avoidance.I mean,everybody will have to face their fears,their guilt,their suppressed anger,all missed opportunities,all mistakes they have made,they will have to deal with all that.

柯博拉：首先，你將成為第一批有機會揚升的人。你們將比其他任何人擁有更多的可能性，因為人們需要經歷他們的療癒過程，而那些已經完成了他們療癒過程的人們將會剩下更少需要經歷的事。他們將會享受他們的生活，而其他人將會非常強烈地處理他們被壓抑的情緒。每個人都必須經歷這個過程。沒有逃避。我的意思是，每個人都必須面對他們的恐懼，他們的內疚，他們被壓抑的憤怒，所有錯過的機會，所有他們犯過的錯誤，他們將不得不面對所有這些。

Debra:Do you see us being able to travel the world easily?As well as traveling to other planets after the Event?

黛布拉：你覺得我們能夠輕鬆地環遊世界嗎？就像事件發生後去其他星球旅行一樣？

Cobra:After the Event,things will begin to open.Of course,it's a process because it would have to go through a distribution channels on the surface.New options will open,and they will accelerate,but it will still take some time to reach that state when everybody will be able to go everywhere.

柯博拉：事件之後，一切都會開始。當然，這是一個過程，因為它必須通過表面上的分散渠道。新的選擇將會出現，他們將會加速，但是仍然需要一些時間來達到那個狀態，當每個人都可以去任何地方的時候。

Debra:And what about Islands of Light?Are they still part of the future after the Event?

黛布拉：那麼光之島呢？它們還是事件發生後未來的一部分嗎？

Cobra:Yes.Yes.

柯博拉：是的，是的。

Debra:Is it only Lightworkers or high vibration humans who can live in an Island of Light?

黛布拉：只有光之工作者或高振動人類才能生活在光之島嗎？

Cobra:Only beings who are in the vibration that is compatible with those people who will be able to live with soul families.This is for very advanced people I would say.

柯博拉：只有在振動中的存有才能與那些將能夠與靈魂家族生活在一起的人相容。我想說，這是給非常先進的人的。

Debra:So,will the people that we are with,will they be part of our soul family?

黛布拉：那麼，和我們在一起的人，他們會成為我們靈魂大家族的一部分嗎？

Cobra:People will be there with their soul families,yes,on Islands of Light.

柯博拉：人們會和他們的靈魂家族在那裡，是的，在光之島上。

Debra:Will we get to choose where we live?

黛布拉：我們可以選擇住在哪裡嗎？

Cobra:Of course.

柯博拉：當然。

Debra:I figured that.Let's talk about soul families a little bit.Since everyone is missing each other for so long,are soul families starting to meet each other now,even before the Event?

黛布拉：我猜到了。讓我們來談談靈魂家族。既然每個人都相互思念了這麼久，靈魂家族現在是不是已經開始相遇了，甚至在事件發生之前？

Cobra:Not really.I mean,right now conditions are very unfavorable for meeting of the soul families with all those lockdowns and mandates and the state of affairs on the surface of the planet.For soul families to meet,people need to have enough soul consciousness,enough higher consciousness,for this to manifest,which is clearly not happening right now.

柯博拉：不見得。我的意思是，現在的情況非常不利於靈魂家族的會面因為所有這些封鎖和命令以及地球表面的事態。為了讓靈魂家族相遇，人們需要有足夠的靈魂意識，足夠的更高的意識，以顯現這一點，這顯然不是現在發生的時候。

Debra:So,as of right now,there's really no safe way to do it.

黛布拉：所以，到目前為止，真的沒有安全的方法去做到這一點。

Cobra:I mean,it can happen to a limited degree,but it's not the best moment.It's simply not happening right now massively.

柯博拉：我的意思是，它可以發生在一個有限的程度，但它不是最好的時刻。只是現在還沒有大規模發生。

Debra:Someone suggested that you create a conference where we could all meet each other.

黛布拉：有人建議你創建一個會議，讓我們大家可以見面。

Cobra:We will see.We will see.

柯博拉：我們將會看到。

Debra:That'll be the big post-event party,right?You've given three soul family categories:twin souls,soulmates,and the friendship network.Can you explain more about these categories and how do we know which category of soul family is relevant to us when we've experienced that?

黛布拉：那將是一個盛大的事件後派對，對嗎？你給出了三個靈魂家族類別：雙生靈魂，靈魂伴侶，和友誼網路。你能解釋更多關於這些類別的內容嗎？當我們經歷這些時，我們如何知道哪些類別的靈魂家族與我們相關？

Cobra:Oh,you will know.If you meet your soulmate,you will definitely feel a very strong energy.And when you're ready to meet your twin soul,you will definitely know.You will not meet your twin soul before you're clearing up…that to have such a complete guidance,they will definitely know what I'm talking about.It will be very clear.You will have no need for an external confirmation at that point.You will simply know.

柯博拉：哦，你會知道的。如果你遇到了你的靈魂伴侶，你肯定會感受到一股強大的能量。當你準備好見到你的雙生靈魂時，你肯定會知道。你不會見到你的雙胞胎靈魂之前，你清理......有這樣一個完整的指導，他們肯定會知道我在說什麼。一切都會很清楚的。到那時你就不需要外界的確認了。你只需要知道。

Debra:There's been a lot of questions about the twin souls.You know,the dark forces have done a great job in keeping twin souls apart.But with them losing control,is this situation improving?Is there a likelihood that someone could meet their twin soul before the Event,or at least a soulmate who carries the twin soul energy?

黛布拉：有很多關於雙生靈魂的問題。你知道，黑暗力量在把雙生靈魂分開方面做得很好。但隨著他們失去控制，情況會好轉嗎？有沒有可能某人會在事件發生前遇到他們的雙生靈魂，或者至少是一個攜帶雙生靈魂能量的靈魂伴侶？

Cobra:As I said before,it is theoretically possible,but it's not happening a lot.It will happen more when we get very close to the Event.

柯博拉：正如我之前所說，理論上是可能的，但這種情況並不常見。當我們非常接近事件時，它會發生得更多。

Debra:Okay.And what about the twin souls who are off planet or below the surface?Will they have to wait until after the Event?

黛布拉：好。那麼在地球之外或地表之下的雙生靈魂呢？他們必須等到事件發生之後嗎？

Cobra:Yes.After the event,those meetings will start and will accelerate as the situation improves.

柯博拉：是的。事件結束後，這些重聚將開始，並將隨著形勢的改善而加速。

Debra:Okay.Do the Light Forces help us meet a twin soul at this point,or will they in the future?I'm sure they can in the future,but what about now?

黛布拉：好的。在這一點上，光明力量會幫助我們遇到一個雙生靈魂嗎？還是在未來？我相信它們在未來可以，但是現在呢？

Cobra:Right now,it's simply not yet time.Let's say it's not safe.The Cabal is too strong and it's the same as with the First Contact.Usually it will not go well if such a meetings would happen right now,the dark ones could simply kill one or both of them.I mean,it's not safe.

柯博拉：現在還不是時候。讓我們假設它不安全。陰謀集團太強大了，和第一次接觸一樣。通常情況下，如果這樣的會面現在就發生的話，不會有什麼好結果，黑暗勢力可能只是簡單地殺死其中一個或者兩個。我是說，這不安全。

Part 5:Healing and Protection

第五部分：療癒和保護

Debra:I would like to talk to you a little bit about healing and protection.So back in 2012,you wrote,"The ongoing process of compression means that the light will expose everything that is hidden collectively and individually.When light from above and light from below meet,right on the surface of the planet,this is the moment of compression breakthrough.That occurrence is called the Event."So Cobra,a lot of people are feeling like a suffocating exhaustion;is this the compression part of that compression breakthrough?

黛布拉：我想跟你談談療癒和保護。回到2012年，你寫道，"持續的壓縮過程意味著光線會將所有隱藏在集體和個體之中的東西暴露出來。當來自上面的光和來自下面的光在地球表面相遇時，這就是壓縮突破的時刻。這種現象被稱為事件。"那麼 Cobra，很多人都感覺到了窒息的疲憊；這是壓縮突破的壓縮部分嗎？

Cobra:Oh,yes.Yes.

柯博拉：哦，是的。

Debra:Kind of like the boiling point that we've talked about.

黛布拉：有點像我們說過的沸點。

Cobra:Yes,yes.It is also dark technologies being cleared,but this pressure which is felt is actually Light squeezing out all the darkness.

柯博拉：是的。它也是黑暗技術被清除，但是這種感覺的壓力實際上是光擠出了所有的黑暗。

Debra:That makes sense.And so,many Lightworkers are feeling attacked with the dark ones lashing out,using very creative ways sometimes.Is it easy to assume that every negative situation is an attack?And how do we know if it is a psychic attack?

黛布拉：有道理。因此，許多光之工作者感覺受到了黑暗勢力的攻擊，他們有時會使用非常有創造性的方式。是不是很容易認為每一個消極的情況都是一種攻擊？我們怎麼知道這是不是精神攻擊？

Cobra:Not every situation is a negative attack,but many of them are,you will simply need to use our guidance and your discernment.

柯博拉：並不是所有的情況都是負面攻擊，但是很多情況都是，你只需要利用我們的指導和你的洞察力。

Debra:Okay,and to use the protocols that you've recommended.

黛布拉：好的，使用你推薦的協議。

Cobra:Yes.

柯博拉：是的。

Debra:It's been said that the Light Forces can read our thoughts and emotions,but that the dark ones cannot and only get information by what they can see through our eyes and hear through our ears.So,we're wondering if it's true,and if you could explain how the dark are able to create suffering and havoc in our lives?And if there's anything we can do to block their access to our thoughts and emotions?

黛布拉：據說光明力量可以讀取我們的思想和情感，但是黑暗力量不能也只能通過我們的眼睛和耳朵來獲取信息。所以，我們想知道這是否是真的，你能否解釋一下黑暗是如何在我們的生活中製造痛苦和破壞的？如果我們能做些什麼來阻止他們進入我們的思想和情感呢？

Cobra:Simply,when you vibrate highly enough,you will be out of their reach,and it will not be so easy for them to contact you.

柯博拉：簡單地說，當你振動得足夠高的時候，你就不在他們的控制範圍內了，他們就不會那麼容易聯繫到你了。

Debra:Excellent.And it seems like many Lightworkers are being attacked from people around them.Can we,or should we,try to clear loved ones of negative entity attachments?

黛布拉：很好。看起來很多光之工作者正在被他們周圍的人攻擊。我們是否可以，或者我們應該，嘗試清除所愛之人的負面實體依戀？

Cobra:If they request it,if they agree,yes.Otherwise no,except if there is an emergency.

柯博拉：如果他們要求，如果他們同意，可以。否則不行，除非有緊急情況。

Debra:And what did you say,if they're what?

黛布拉：你說什麼，如果他們是什麼？

Cobra:They need to agree with this.

柯博拉：他們必須同意這一點。

Debra:Well,that's what I was going to ask.Do you need to have their knowledge or permission?

黛布拉：嗯，這正是我想問的。你需要得到他們的知情權或許可嗎？

Cobra:Yes.The only exception,if there is an emergency,if they're in danger,of course you can help them without asking for permission.

柯博拉：是的。唯一的例外是，如果有緊急情況，如果他們有危險，你當然可以幫助他們而不需要徵求許可。

Debra:I see.How long does a clearing last and what can bring it back?I know probably,you know,addictions and things like that.

黛布拉：我明白了。清理需要持續多久？什麼能把它帶回來？我知道可能是因為上癮之類的原因。

Cobra:It depends how well you are in the clearing process.It depends what you do.So it's not possible to give one unified answer to this.

柯博拉：這取決於你在清理過程中的表現。這取決於你做什麼。所以不可能給出一個統一的答案。

Debra:Okay.Does it help if we claim our true power back?(Yes,of course).And connecting to the I AM presence,is that a really good way to do that?

黛布拉：好的。如果我們要回我們真正的力量，會有幫助嗎？（是的，當然）。與"我是臨在"的存在相連，這真的是一個很好的方式嗎？

Cobra:Yes,of course.

柯博拉：當然。

Debra:Okay.How can Lightworkers discern false light in the spiritual community?Are there any tips for us to know if the channelling or message is real?

好的。光之工作者如何識別靈性社區中的虛假光？有沒有什麼技巧可以讓我們知道通靈或信息是否真實？

Cobra:Yes,use common sense.

柯博拉：是的，用常識。

Debra:Okay.And some people claim that using psilocybin and other natural hallucinogenic plant medicine to access other dimensions exponentially increases their spiritual growth.How do you feel about this,and are these safe?

黛布拉：好的。一些人聲稱使用裸蓋菇素和其他天然致幻植物藥物進入其他維度可以成倍地提高他們的精神成長。你對此有何感想，這些藥物安全嗎？

Cobra:Well,as much I was interacting with people who were taking those,some of them had genuine experiences,but most of them were just channeling the astral plane.So,my general impression is that most of those experiences are not really helping them grow.Of course,there are exceptions.There are people who have done this correctly with people who were Shamans,who were experienced,who gave the right guidance.But in most cases that was simply not true.

柯博拉：我和服用這些藥物的人有很多交流，他們中的一些人有著真實的經歷，但是他們中的大多數人只是在通靈。所以，我的總體印象是，大多數這些經歷並沒有真正幫助他們成長。當然，也有例外。有些人正確地做到了這一點，他們是薩滿巫師，經驗豐富，給予了正確的指導。但在大多數情況下，事實並非如此。

Debra:So done very,mindfully,I think.

黛布拉：我認為這樣做非常謹慎。

Cobra:Yes.

柯博拉：是的。

Debra:There seems to be an increase in deaths lately.So we're wondering,are these souls who will be unable to withstand the powerful energies of the Event solar flash,or are they just simply choosing not to be here at this time?Why are we seeing more deaths?

黛布拉：最近死亡人數似乎有所增加。所以我們想知道，這些靈魂是否無法承受事件太陽閃光的強大能量，或者他們只是選擇在這個時候不在這裡？為什麼我們會看到更多的死亡？

Cobra:Many people are just tired and wish to opt out and are leaving.This is on a soul level.It's a decision to leave the body.It's happening quite much.

柯博拉：許多人只是累了，希望退出，然後離開。這是一個靈魂層面的問題。這是一個離開身體的決定。這種事經常發生。

Debra:Are the conditions better now on the Astral plane for someone who does die,are souls able to avoid the reincarnation trap,or that depends on their vibration at the time of their transition?

黛布拉：對於那些已經死去的人來說，現在星界的條件是否更好，靈魂是否能夠避免輪迴陷阱，或者那取決於他們轉變時的振動？

Cobra:The conditions are somewhat better,but it's still not safe.Many are able to avoid the trap,and many are not.It depends on their overall vibration,not just at the time of a transition,but being their life in general.And their decision–what they want to do when they die,where they want to go.

柯博拉：情況好一些了，但還是不安全。許多人能夠避開這個陷阱，許多人不能。這取決於他們的整體振動，不僅僅是在轉變的時候，而是在他們的生活中。他們的決定-他們死後想做什麼，他們想去哪裡。

Debra:So it really is up to that person?

黛布拉：所以這真的取決於那個人？

Cobra:Yes.I mean,not completely,of course there are external factors.There's still a dark network that wants to capture them,but many are able to escape.

柯博拉：是的。我的意思是，不完全是，當然還有外部因素。仍然有一個黑暗的網路想要捕捉它們，但是很多都能夠逃脫。

Debra:What happens to people and Starseeds who leave the physical plane before the Event and Ascension.If they're not in a physical body,will they still be able to ascend?

黛布拉：那些在事件和揚升之前離開物質層的人和星際種子會發生什麼。如果他們不在物質身體裡，他們還能揚升嗎？

Cobra:Yes.Yes.

柯博拉：是的。

Debra:Good.Are we able to protect ourselves and deflect scalar attacks by wearing items like crystals or golden silver or ingesting things like colloidal gold or silver or ormus?

黛布拉：很好。我們是否能夠通過佩戴像水晶或者金銀這樣的物品或者攝取像膠體金、銀或者奧姆斯這樣的東西來保護我們自己並且避開標量攻擊呢？

Cobra:For example,there are some Tachyon technologies that can help repelling those scalar attacks.And there are some other technologies that are also quite effective–and Cintamani stones,of course,help with your vibrational frequency quite much.

柯博拉：例如，有一些超光速粒子技術可以幫助擊退這些標量攻擊。還有一些其他的技術也相當有效-當然，如意寶珠，對你的振動頻率有很大的幫助。

Debra:Well,that was what I was about to ask you,was the Cintamani stones.What makes them the highest vibrational stone?

黛布拉：嗯，這就是我要問你的，是如意寶珠。是什麼讓它們成為最高的振動石？

Cobra:They came from Sirius star system,and Sirius star system is one of the brightest spots in the whole galaxy.It's a pure light energy and those stones are pure light.

柯博拉：它們來自天狼星系統，天狼星系統是整個星系中最亮的點之一。它是一種純光能量，那些石頭是純光。

Debra:So with them being pure light,some people are confused because it's suggested that we do not wear them during times of emotional distress because that effect could seep into the planetary energy fields.

黛布拉：因為它們是純淨的光，有些人感到困惑，因為有人建議我們在情緒低落的時候不要戴它們，因為這種效應會滲透到行星的能量場中。

Cobra:Well,they act as a magnifying lens and if we emit negative energy,they can magnify that and put it in the network.So it's really a special stone.

柯博拉：嗯，它們就像一個放大鏡，如果我們發射出負能量，它們就會放大這些負能量，並把它們放到網路中。所以這真的是一塊特殊的石頭。

Debra:So it's still guided that we do not have it on us when we're…

黛布拉：所以它仍然被引導著，當我們..。

Cobra:If you are really strongly distressed,I would say put it down for a few moments.I would not be overly concerned with this,but if you're already highly distressed then better just leave it,put it down.

柯博拉：如果你真的非常痛苦，我建議你把它放下一會兒。我不會過分關心這個，但是如果你已經非常痛苦，那麼最好放下它，把它放下。

Debra:Understood.Why do so few people know about these stones?It seems even within the spiritual community people are unaware.

黛布拉：明白。為什麼知道這些石頭的人這麼少？似乎即使在精神世界裡，人們也沒有意識到。

Cobra:Yeah,this is what you need to ask them.Don't ask me.

柯博拉：是的，這就是你需要問他們的。不要問我。

Debra:Exactly!Well,we're getting the word out.We know that these will play an important role at the time of the Event and that's why we're trying to get more stones out there.Can you speak a little bit about the effects that it will have with us,you know,wearing them,planting them,that kind of thing?

黛布拉：沒錯！我們要把消息傳出去。我們知道這些石頭在事件發生的時候會扮演重要的角色，這就是為什麼我們試圖在那裡獲得更多的石頭。你能說說它對我們的影響嗎，你知道，穿戴它們，埋放它們，諸如此類的事情？

Cobra:Okay,each Cintamani stone that is planted in the grid,there is an angelic being that attaches to them,anchors to that stone.So we're actually helping to anchor a huge number of angelic beings in the energy grid of the planet.Now,of course,that is very much needed,and this is very effective.

柯博拉：好的，每一塊被植入網格中的如意寶珠，都有一個天使附著在它們上面，錨定在那塊石頭上。所以我們實際上是在幫助大量的天使生物，在這個星球的能量網格中定位。當然，這是非常必要的，而且非常有效。

Debra:And what about when we wear them?

黛布拉：那我們穿的時候呢？

Cobra:Then we're inviting those angelic beings to assist us in our evolution.

柯博拉：我們邀請那些天使幫助我們進化。

Debra:Wonderful.And of course,people can find out about the Cintamani stones on your website.I have some questions from Tachyon chamber owners.There are now about 73 chambers around the world for public use.And people are wondering if these can help stop the virus or correct problems caused by the injection?

黛布拉：太好了。當然，人們可以在你的網站上找到如意寶珠。我有幾個來自超光速粒子室主的問題。現在全世界大約有73個供公眾使用的密室。人們想知道這些是否有助於阻止病毒或糾正由注射引起的問題？

Cobra:They will not stop the virus,but they will harmonize your body to better deal with a virus,or to deal with anything.

柯博拉：他們不能阻止病毒，但是他們可以協調你的身體來更好地應對病毒，或者應對任何事情。

Debra:And they're often asked what's the difference between Tachyon chambers and Medbeds?

黛布拉：他們經常被問到超光速粒子室和醫療床的區別是什麼？

Cobra:That's a completely different technology.Tachyon chambers are infusing our bodies with Tachyons.Whereas the Medbeds are actually a technology which rearranges the atomic structure of the physical body.It's quite an advanced technology that is not yet present on the surface of the planet.And it will not be present before the Event,no matter what anybody else says.

柯博拉：那是一種完全不同的技術。超光速粒子室正在向我們的身體注入超光速粒子。而醫療床實際上是一種重新排列物質身體原子結構的技術。這是一項相當先進的技術，目前還沒有出現在地球表面。不管其他人怎麼說，它也不會在事件發生之前出現。

Debra:Okay,that was my question…would we have access to these before the Event,because many people[in the alternative media]are talking about them.So Tachyon chambers are currently available now;can you share with us how they can help people now?You once said that as the vibration of Gaia increases,the impact of the chambers increases as well.So would you elaborate on how the chambers assist with implant clearing and the Ascension process?

黛布拉：好吧，這就是我的問題......我們能在事件前看到這些東西嗎，因為很多人（在另類媒體中）都在談論它們。所以超光速粒子實驗室現在已經可以使用了；你能和我們分享一下他們現在如何幫助人們嗎？你曾經說過，隨著蓋婭 (Gaia) 振動的增加，超光速粒子室的影響也會增加。所以你能詳細說明一下超光速粒子室是如何協助植入物清理和揚升過程的嗎？

Cobra:Actually,Tachyon chambers bring Tachyon energy into your energy field and then your energy field spontaneously rearranges with the energy of the Source because Tachyons are coming directly from the Source.And this is the shortest possible shortcut towards the Ascension.And of course,as your energy field rearranges and realigns with full alignment with the divine archetype,your physical body reacts also and you bring your physical body state of greater health.So that's the main principle.And as the energies get stronger,as we get closer to the Event,the effect of those chambers will only increase.

柯博拉：事實上，超光速粒子室將超光速粒子的能量帶入你的能量場然後你的能量場自發地與源頭的能量重新排列因為超光速粒子直接來自源頭。這是通往揚升的最短捷徑。當然，當你的能量場重新排列並與神聖原型完全對齊時，你的物質身體也會做出反應，你會帶來更健康的物質身體狀態。這就是主要原則。隨著能量變得越來越強，隨著我們越來越接近事件，這些超光速粒子室的作用只會增加。

Debra:Wonderful.And of course,people can find out about the Tachyon chambers on your website as well.And I will personally testify that they are fabulous,so I would encourage everyone to find one in their area or make an effort to go to one.

黛布拉：太好了。當然，人們也可以在你的網站上找到關於超光速粒子室的信息。我會親自作證，它們非常棒，所以我鼓勵每個人都在自己的領域內找到一個，或者努力去找一個。

Part 6:Goddess/Sisterhood of the Rose

第六部分：女神／薔薇聖女團

Debra:Okay,Cobra a couple more minutes.In the last part,I'd like to ask you a couple of questions about the Goddess and Sisterhood of the Rose.It was exciting to read your recent update when you wrote,"Increased Galactic Central Sun activity has also resulted in a new inflow of Goddess energy for the planet.Isis got her crown back."

黛布拉：好的，柯博拉，再等幾分鐘。在最後一部分，我想問你幾個關於女神和玫瑰姐妹會的問題。看到你最近的更新令人興奮，當你寫道，"銀河系中央太陽活動的增加也導致了新的女神能量流入行星。伊希斯奪回了她的王冠。"

Now you had also posted"Isis got her crown back"in 2012.And then in an interview in 2017,when asked what this means,you explained,"It is a symbolic code for the embodiment of the Goddess on the surface of this planet especially,and in the solar system,because the Goddess presence has been suppressed and so symbolically'Goddess Isis gets her crown back'means that the Goddess presence will be empowered back again.And a true,real feminine principle will begin to flow freely,energetically,and physically,throughout the surface of the planet."So Cobra,if this already happened nine years ago,what is the relevance right now?What's the difference between your recent message and the same message in 2012?

你還在2012年發佈了"Isis 奪回了她的王冠"。然後在2017年的一次採訪中，當被問及這意味著什麼時，你解釋說，"這是女神在這個星球表面，特別是在太陽系的化身的象徵性代碼，因為女神的存在被壓制了，所以象徵性的'女神伊希斯拿回她的皇冠'意味著女神的存在將再次被賦予權力。一個真正的、真正的女性能量將開始在這個星球的表面自由地、能量地、物理地流動。"那麼 Cobra，如果這在九年前就已經發生了，那麼現在還有什麼意義呢？你最近的信息和2012年的相同信息有什麼不同？

Cobra:Goddess energy comes towards this planet in waves.One of those waves was in 2012,and then there were a few waves after that.Now another wave of Goddess energy hit the planet in October of this year.And this wave was very important because it has rearranged certain things behind the scenes,which I will not yet talk about,but they are quite important,I would say the balance of power at the top of the Black Nobility families has changed.The certain plans of the Light Forces have changed,have been accelerated,and certain things are looking much better than they did before.This was completely unexpected.I was not expecting this wave to hit,and it did and it was a pleasant surprise.And now this is increasing and is preparing foundations for some certain things in next year that are being planned by the Light Forces.

柯博拉：女神的能量一波一波地湧向這個星球。其中一次是在2012年，之後還有幾次。今年10月，另一波女神能量襲擊了地球。這股浪潮非常重要，因為它重新安排了幕後的某些事情，我還不會談論，但它們非常重要，我想說，黑色貴族家族高層的權力平衡已經發生了變化。光明勢力的某些計劃已經改變，已經加速，某些事情看起來比以前好多了。這完全出乎意料。我沒有預料到會有這樣的波浪襲來，它確實襲來了，這是一個令人愉快的驚喜。現在這種情況正在增加，並且正在為明年的某些事情做準備，正在為明年光明力量計劃的某些事情準備基礎。

Debra:Excellent.That's fantastic news.In 2018,the Galactic Federation Forces of Light had decreed the surface of this planet to be turned into Confederation command,according to the Galactic Codex.If we combine this statement with the code,"Isis got her crown back,"does this mean that goddess Isis will personally reign over the surface as Earth queen?

黛布拉：很好。這真是個好消息。根據《銀河法典》，2018年，銀河聯盟光明勢力頒佈法令，將這顆行星的表面轉變為聯盟指揮部。如果我們把這句話和代碼結合起來，"Isis 拿回了她的王冠"，這是否意味著 Isis 女神將作為地球女王親自統治地球表面？

Cobra:This is a very sensitive issue.I would say that the Light Forces got certain mandates,certain legal conditions have been fulfilled for certain actions that will lead towards the defeat of the Cabal,towards the defeat of the leading Black Nobility families.This is as much as I can say right now.

柯博拉：這是一個非常敏感的問題。我想說，光明勢力得到了一定的授權，一定的法律條件已經滿足了一定的行動，將導致打敗陰謀集團，打敗主要的黑色貴族家族。我現在只能說這麼多了。

Debra:Okay,thank you.Is it possible that Isis,or the Galactic Central Sun,or the Source itself is incarnated on the planet now?(No,no.)Is there currently a High Priestess?(No.)Okay.What if someone is interested in learning about the mysteries of Isis,is there a way to become a student?

好的，謝謝。有沒有可能 Isis，或者銀河系的中央太陽，或者源頭本身現在在這個星球上？（不，不）可能現在有高級女祭司嗎？（沒有），好吧。如果有人對Isis的秘密感興趣，有沒有成為學生的方法？

Cobra:People are learning in their own way.There is no Goddess mystery school present on the surface of the planet yet.The situation is not yet ready,but there are fragments of true mysteries here and there.I had a few workshops that were quite powerful three years ago when I had revealed a great deal of this and there are probably notes floating somewhere over the internet.And you can get those and learn from there,but this is not the whole story.There is much more to it.

柯博拉：人們在用自己的方式學習。目前在地球表面還沒有女神神秘學校存在。情況還沒有準備好，但是到處都有真正神秘的片段。三年前，我曾舉辦過幾個非常有影響力的研討會，當時我已經透露了很多這方面的信息，網上可能有很多筆記。你可以從中學習，但這並不是故事的全部。還有更多的東西。

Debra:Okay.I would like to ask you a little bit about Goddess vortexes.What about God Vortexes?It's said that the vortexes are categorized as feminine when the energy enters the earth,and they are masculine when the energy leaves the earth.Are both equally important and do they work together?

黛布拉：好的。我想問你一些關於女神漩渦的問題。上帝漩渦怎麼樣？據說當能量進入地球時，漩渦被歸類為女性，當能量離開地球時，它們被歸類為男性。兩者同等重要嗎？它們是否一起起作用？

Cobra:Yes,both are equally important,but there has been such a big disbalance created that first the Goddess vortexes need to be activated.And only when this network is stable enough,will the God vortexes be activated again,because God's vortexes are very powerful.And when there is still a great possibility that this power will be misused,they cannot be activated.It's not safe.

柯博拉：是的，兩者都同樣重要，但是已經產生了這麼大的不平衡，首先女神漩渦需要被激活。只有當這個網路足夠穩定時，上帝的漩渦才會再次被激活，因為上帝的漩渦非常強大。當這種力量被濫用的可能性仍然很大的時候，它們就不能被激活。這不安全。

Debra:The double Paris-Versailles vortex is being prepared for a new level of activity this month.Can you share more?How can we support this?

黛布拉：本月，巴黎和凡爾賽宮的雙重漩渦正準備達到一個新的水平。你能分享更多嗎？我們如何支持這一點？

Cobra:No,not yet.

柯博拉：不，還沒有。

Debra:Okay,we look forward to hearing about that.A couple of questions about the Myrrhophores priestesses in your recent update.These goddesses were practicing in the ancient temples of Egypt,bringing myrrh to those who are approaching death.Does such a return of these priestesses mean that they will come to the surface as a trained spiritual group?And will members of the Sisterhood be initiated as these priestesses?

黛布拉：好的，我們很期待聽到這個消息。在你最近的更新中有幾個關於 Myrrhophores 女祭司的問題。這些女神在埃及古老的寺廟中練習，將末藥 (myrrh )帶給那些瀕臨死亡的人。這些女祭司的回歸是否意味著她們將作為一個訓練有素的精神團體來到地表？薔薇聖女團成員會成為這些女祭司嗎？

Cobra:It doesn't mean a return of the priestesses from below the surface,not yet.But fragments of this knowledge are coming back to the surface population again.And it's not just about the myrrh and those who are approaching death.It's a whole science,a whole teaching of how to use sacred oils for different purposes to raise the vibration,to activate certain chakras,to activate certain higher facilities.It's a lot more to this,and this is slowly being revealed to the surface population.

柯博拉：這並不意味著女祭司們會從地下回來，至少現在還不是。但是這些知識的碎片又回到了地表。這不僅僅是關於沒藥和那些瀕臨死亡的人。這是一個完整的科學，一個完整的教學如何使用聖油的不同目的，以提高振動，激活某些脈輪，激活某些更高的設施。還有更多的內容，這些內容正在慢慢被地表人口所知曉。

Debra:Well,I was just about to ask you what other oils are powerful and useful to know about?And we're wondering if these oils penetrate layers of our dimension,such as the plasma or etheric layer?

黛布拉：好吧，我正要問你還有什麼其他的油是有用的呢？我們想知道這些油是否能穿透我們的維度，比如等離子層或者乙太層？

Cobra:Yes,they can.

柯博拉：是的，他們可以。

Debra:Are there other oils that you can share right now?

黛布拉：現在還有其他油可以分享嗎？

Cobra:There are a few,quite a few that are quite important.One of them is of course the rose oil,the sandalwood oil,and many others.Most of them were used in ancient temples in Egypt,in Greece,in India,in ancient cultures,they knew about them.And they're waiting to be rediscovered.

柯博拉：有一些，一些是相當重要的。其中之一當然是玫瑰油，檀香油，還有很多其他的。它們大多用於埃及，希臘，印度的古代寺廟，在古代文化中，他們知道它們。它們正在等待被重新發現。

Debra:Wonderful.Okay,a couple more questions,Cobra.There are Lightworkers who work diligently to keep their energy fields clean and have abstained from sexual relations due to not being able to find a high vibration partner,because they're aware of the fact that dark entities can infiltrate and harness sexual energy.This is also causing many women to cut off the much-needed sensual and sexual energy of the Goddess within themselves.And so,one Sister asks,"If a woman feels a desire to unite with someone,but the man is very unconscious,will this put bad energy into the field?"Cobra,what do you suggest?Is energetic protection needed?Are the energies being cleared more?Is it any safer to allow more sexual expressions of ourselves,or is it still best to abstain?

黛布拉：太好了。好吧，還有幾個問題，Cobra。有些光之工作者勤奮地工作以保持他們能量場的清潔，並且由於無法找到高振動伴侶而避免了性關係，因為他們意識到黑暗實體可以滲透並利用性能量這一事實。這也導致許多女性切斷了她們內在女神急需的感官和性能量。因此，一位修女問道，"如果一個女人想要和某人結合，而男人卻非常無意識，這會不會給這個領域帶來壞的能量？"Cobra，你有什麼建議？需要有力的保護嗎？能量被清除得更多了嗎？允許自己更多的性表達是否更安全，還是最好還是禁慾？

Cobra:If it's done with the right intention,there is nothing wrong with it.I mean it does not mean that the entities need to come into you if you're doing it from the right intention.If there is a connection between you and this other person,no matter what his vibrational frequency is,that itself will determine what will happen,how the energies will exchange.So I would not be overly worried about those entities,if you are doing it for the right purpose.As it would anything else in your life,entities can jump on you while you're having breakfast,for example.If you're in a bad mood or if you're angry,fighting with somebody.

柯博拉：如果是出於正確的目的，那麼就沒有什麼錯。我的意思是，這並不意味著如果你是出於正確的目的，那麼實體就需要進入你的身體。如果你和這個人之間有某種聯繫，不管他的振動頻率是多少，這本身就會決定將會發生什麼，能量將如何交換。所以我不會過分擔心這些實體，如果你是出於正確的目的。就像你生活中的其他事情一樣，例如，當你正在吃早餐的時候，這些實體會跳到你身上。如果你心情不好或者生氣了，就和別人打架。

Debra:Good point.The fact that this union involves two people,do both people have to have that intention or is it okay if just one of the partners does?

黛布拉：說得好。事實上，這個結合涉及到兩個人，兩個人都必須有這樣的意圖嗎？或者只有一個人有這樣的意圖可以嗎？

Cobra:Well,there needs to be a certain agreement at least to a certain degree about the intention.Otherwise,it will not be a pleasant act.That's obvious.They don't need to be exactly the same level of consciousness.It does not need to be perfect,but there needs to be some basic understanding,a basic unification of purpose,why this is happening,and then it should be okay.And of course,you can use,you can use the Violet Flame,you can use basic protection techniques,that's also helpful sometimes.

柯博拉：嗯，至少在某種程度上，需要有一個關於意圖的某種協議。否則，這將不是一個令人愉快的行為。這很明顯。他們不需要完全相同的意識水平。它不需要是完美的，但是需要有一些基本的理解，一個基本的目標的統一，為什麼會發生，然後它應該是好的。當然，你可以使用，你可以使用紫色火焰，你可以使用基本的保護技術，有時候這也是有幫助的。

Debra:I see,understood.She also asked,"Can a man be healed with Goddess energy this way?Is it something similar to what the sacred prostitutes did,and can you tell something about them or give some advice on how to be one?And what is the importance of living our sensuality?"

黛布拉：我明白了。她還問："女神的能量可以用這種方式治癒一個人嗎？是不是類似於聖娼所做的事情，你能告訴我們一些關於她們的事情或者給出一些如何成為聖娼女的建議嗎？生活在性感中的重要性是什麼？"

Cobra:Yes,of course a man can be healed with the Goddess energy,if he's receptive to it this way.And of course,a woman can do that if she's so guided.And if she follows that path,she can ask for guidance,and she will receive guidance in many different ways.

柯博拉：是的，當然一個人可以被女神的能量治癒，如果他這樣接受的話。當然，一個女人可以做到這一點，如果她被如此引導。如果她遵循這條道路，她可以尋求指導，並且她將以許多不同的方式得到指導。

Debra:And of course,it is important to live our sensuality,but healthy sexual energy and expression seem to be a missing link in our world.How can we learn more about this?

黛布拉：當然，生活在性感中是很重要的，但是健康的性能量和性表達似乎是我們世界中缺失的一環。我們怎樣才能瞭解更多呢？

Cobra:Again,you need to learn more about your own sexual energy,about your own Kundalini energy,explore it in a way that feels okay with you.Use your own inner guidance.Do not look so much to external sources because most of the external sources have been compromised.You need to unlearn whatever you have learned and just explore inside–inside your energy field,inside of your body first.And then you will know what I'm talking about.

柯博拉：同樣，你需要更多地瞭解你自己的性能量，瞭解你自己的昆達里尼能量，以一種讓你感覺良好的方式去探索它。使用你自己的內心指引。不要過於依賴外部資源，因為大多數外部資源已經被破壞了。你需要忘記你已經學到的東西，只是探索你的能量場內部，首先是你的身體內部。然後你就知道我在說什麼了。

Debra:Thank you.A couple quick questions about twin souls.We've talked about this before,but wondering what we can do to attract more?We Love Mass Meditation put out a guided audio for the twin soul meditation,so that's good to do,but what else can we do?

黛布拉：謝謝。幾個關於雙生靈魂的問題。我們之前已經討論過這個問題，但是想知道我們能做些什麼來吸引更多的人嗎？我們熱愛集體冥想為雙生靈魂冥想提供了一個指導性的音頻，所以這很好，但是我們還能做什麼呢？

Cobra:That's actually a very good meditation.It was given to humanity by the Light Forces.And it's a very good meditation,you can do that.This is almost the best thing you can do at this point.

柯博拉：這實際上是一個很好的冥想。這是光明勢力賦予人類的。這是一個很好的冥想，你可以這樣做。這幾乎是你現在能做的最好的事情了。

Debra:Okay,fantastic.We sometimes in our implant clearing sessions do that meditation.But people do ask why,in the meditation,the twin soul is referred to as"her"?I had asked you about this and you said,"The soul(Buddha)is the feminine aspect,and the spirit(Atma)is the masculine aspect.So the twin soul is a'her'."Could you elaborate more so that people can fully understand this?Because I still had questions after I had told them that.

黛布拉：好的，太棒了。我們有時會在植入物清理過程中進行冥想。但是人們確實會問，為什麼在冥想中，雙生靈魂被稱為"她"？我曾經問過你這個問題，你說，"靈魂(Buddha)是女性的一面，而精神(Atma)是男性的一面。所以雙生靈魂是'她'。"你能詳細說明一下嗎，這樣人們就能完全理解了？因為在我告訴他們這些之後，我仍然有疑問。

Cobra:Ok,the level,the dimension,where the soul resides is a feminine energy.So that's why we address the soul as"her."It's very simple.

柯博拉：好的，這個層次，這個維度，靈魂居住的地方是一個女性能量。這就是為什麼我們稱靈魂為"她"，很簡單。

Debra:Okay,thank you.And is sacred union between a man and woman part of the Goddess mysteries?

黛布拉：好的，謝謝。男女之間的神聖結合是女神秘法的一部分嗎？

Cobra:Yes,definitely.

柯博拉：是的，當然。

Debra:That's what we thought.And will the full knowledge and secrets of these mystery schools be revealed after the Event?

黛布拉：我們也是這麼想的。事件發生後，這些神秘學校的全部知識和秘密會被揭露嗎？

Cobra:After the Event.Yes.

柯博拉：事件之後，是的。

Debra:And will the Sisterhood of the Rose groups play an important role in reactivating these?

黛布拉：薔薇聖女團會在重新激活這些組織方面發揮重要作用嗎？

Cobra:Definitely.Definitely.Very much.

柯博拉：當然的。

Debra:What direction do you see for Sisterhood of the Rose groups in 2022?Do you have a message for them?

黛布拉：你認為薔薇聖女團在2022年的發展方向是什麼？你有什麼話要對她們說嗎？

Cobra:Yes,it will be good for all those groups that are still existing to reunite in power,meet more,because some of them are in various stages of decomposition.It's time for them to reunite again,to renew connections again.A different dynamic has,and all those lockdowns have,reduced the number of physical meetings.Perhaps you can reinstate the physical meetings again,which is quite important to hold the energy.You can study all those new teachings about the Myrrhophore priestesses.You can connect with Goddess Isis,especially because her energy is coming back big time in the year 2022.

柯博拉：是的，這將有利於所有那些仍然存在的團體在權力中重新團結，遇見更多，因為他們中的一些人正處於不同的分解階段。是時候讓他們重新團結起來，重新建立聯繫了。一個不同的動態，所有這些封鎖，減少了物理會議的數量。也許你可以再次恢復實體會議，這對於保持能量十分重要。你可以學習那些關於Myrrhophore 女祭司的新教義。你可以和Isis女神聯繫，特別是因為她的能量在2022年會回來。

Debra:Oh,excellent.Good to know.And I'd like to just share that the Sisterhood of the Rose has something planned for 2022 to provide weekly meditation for the goddess meditations,so we will keep our eyes open for that.

黛布拉：哦，太棒了。很高興知道。我想和大家分享一下薔薇聖女團計劃在2022年為女神冥想提供每週一次的冥想，所以我們會一直關注這個。

And Cobra as we close this interview,we would like to know what do you see ahead for all of humanity in 2022?And what message do you have for us?

在我們結束這次採訪之際，我們想知道你對2022年全人類的未來有什麼看法？你對我們有什麼信息？

Cobra:This now is a very complex time.It has never been so complex.So it is one of the times where it's almost impossible to predict how things will turn out.Because it is the time of great tension,and at the same time,a time of a huge potential.So the more we unite,the more we focus upon what we want to manifest,the more we are manifesting this,as we're doing this meditation we can keep manifesting this,and it can ensure our success.It can bring our success much closer.The message will simply be"Victory of the Light".This is what we are here for,and this is what we will get.No matter what it takes.

柯博拉：現在是一個非常複雜的時代。從未如此複雜過。因此，這是一個幾乎不可能預測事情將如何發展的時代。因為這是一個非常緊張的時期，同時也是一個潛力巨大的時期。所以我們越是團結，我們越是專注於我們想要顯化的東西，我們就越能顯化這個東西，當我們在做這個冥想的時候，我們可以繼續顯化這個東西，它可以確保我們的成功。它可以讓我們的成功更加接近。這個信息就是"光的勝利"。這就是我們在這裡的目的，也是我們將要得到的。無論付出什麼代價。

Debra:Absolutely.And of course our meditation on December 21st will have a big impact,as well as signing that petition.So please check out Cobra's website at 2012portal.blogspot.com,along with welovemassmeditation.com for information on all of that.Share the word,spread the word.Let's surpass critical mass on this.

黛布拉：當然。我們在12月21日的冥想會產生很大的影響，就像簽署請願書一樣。所以，請登陸 Cobra 的網站：2012portal.blogspot.com，以及 welovemassmeditation.com 獲取相關信息。分享信息，傳播信息。讓我們在這方面超越臨界質量。

Follow Cobra's blog for intel on the greatest Event to ever reach our planet,our galaxy,our universe as we go through these times.I would like to thank all of the Sisterhood of the Rose and my Victory of the Light team for assisting with contributing to the questions.

關注柯博拉的博客，瞭解我們所經歷的這些時代中，有史以來最偉大的事件，它將影響到我們的星球，我們的銀河系，我們的宇宙。我想感謝薔薇聖女團和我的光的勝利團隊，感謝他們對這些問題的貢獻。

We do encourage people to check out Sisterhood of the Rose,forming a group in your area,find out what we do,and our website is sisterhoodoftherose.network.

我們確實鼓勵人們去看看"薔薇聖女團"，在你所在的地區成立一個小組，瞭解我們的工作，我們的網站是 sisterhoodoftherose.network。

Once again,Cobra,we thank you so much.We appreciate all of the intel,all the hard work that you're doing.We know this isn't easy for anyone,but we are supporting you,we love you,and we say,"Victory of the Light!"Thank you.

柯博拉，我們再次感謝你。我們感謝你們提供的所有情報以及你們的辛勤工作。我們知道這對任何人來說都不容易但我們支持你們，我們愛你們我們說"光的勝利"謝謝。

Cobra:Thank you everybody and Victory of the Light!

謝謝大家，光的勝利！

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About this blog:

關於這個博客：

We Love Mass Meditation organizes Mass Meditations aiming to help achieve planetary liberation as soon as possible and as smoothly as possible.

我們熱愛集體冥想組織集體冥想，旨在幫助儘快、儘可能順利地實現行星的解放。

Please join any of the meditations below if you feel so guided.

如果你覺得被引導了，請加入下面的冥想。

Divine Intervention Activation on December 21st at 4 PM UTC

世界標準時間12月21日下午4點啟動神聖介入

https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2021/11/divine-intervention-activation-on-december-21st-at-4-pm-utc-1221.html

Urgent meditation for liberating all hostages from underground bases

從地下基地解救所有人質的緊急冥想

https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2021/05/urgent-meditation-for-liberating-all-hostages-from.html

Meditation for Taiwan every 4 hours

每4小時為台灣進行一次冥想

https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2021/09/meditation-for-taiwan-every-4-hours.html

Meditation for Afghanistan every 4 hours

阿富汗冥想每4小時

https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2021/08/meditation-for-afghanistan-every-4-hours.html

Flower of Life Meditation,12 PM UTC and every 4 hours,also at any time and as often as possible

生命之花冥想，世界標準時間下午12點，每4小時，也在任何時間，儘可能經常

https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2019/09/flower-of-life-meditation-every-4-hours.html

Meditation to counteract medical tyranny daily at 9:30 PM UTC

世界標準時間每天晚上9:30冥想來抵消醫療暴政

https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2020/09/meditation-to-counteract-engineer-second-wave-lockdowns-daily-at-930-pm-utc.html

End of Coronavirus Meditation at 3 PM UTC and every 4 hours

世界標準時間下午3點結束冠狀病毒冥想，每4小時一次

http://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2020/04/end-of-coronavirus-meditation-on-sunday-at-3pm-utc-and-every-4-hours.html

Meditation to stop the Coronavirus outbreak globally every 4 hours

每4小時進行一次冥想，以阻止新冠病毒在全球範圍內的爆發

https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2020/01/Urgent-meditation-to-stop-the-pandemics-outbreak-in-china-every-4-hours.html

Emergency Meditation at 2 PM UTC

世界標準時間下午2點的緊急冥想

https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2018/02/breakthrough-meditation-at-2-pm-utc-and.html

Goddess Vortex Meditation at 2:30 PM UTC

世界標準時間下午2:30的女神漩渦冥想

https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2021/01/goddess-vortex-meditation-at-230-pm-utc-every-day.html

Cosmic Central Race Meditation at 3:15 PM UTC

世界標準時間下午3:15宇宙中央種族冥想

https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2019/02/cosmic-central-race-meditation-at-315.html

Buddhic Columns Meditation at 3:30 PM UTC

世界標準時間下午3:30的菩提光柱冥想

https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2018/10/daily-buddhic-columns-meditation-at-330.html

We also organize different mass meditations regularly for various purposes.They can be found in this link below:

我們也為不同的目的定期組織不同的集體冥想，它們可以在以下連結中找到：

https://welovemassmeditation.blogspot.co.uk/p/blog-page.html

Donation to We Love Mass Meditation Fund

捐款給我們熱愛集體冥想基金

We Love Mass Meditation Fund provides emergency financial support to Lightworkers around the world.Please feel free to make a regular or one-off contribution using the link below:

我們熱愛大眾冥想基金為世界各地的光之工作者提供緊急財政支持。請隨時使用以下連結定期或一次性捐款：

paypal.me/WeLoveMassMeditation

Please assist/support us for a smooth transition in planetary liberation in the highest Light.

請協助／支持我們在最高的光中行星解放的平穩過渡。

We Love Mass Meditation Healing Group

我們熱愛集體冥想治療小組

You are welcome to join our healing group to request healing from healers around the world,we are also looking for qualified healers to join this group to help people in need

歡迎您加入我們的治療小組，請求來自世界各地的治療師的治療，我們也正在尋找合格的治療師加入這個小組，以幫助有需要的人

https://www.facebook.com/groups/welovemassmeditationhealing

來源：https://www.welovemassmeditation.com/2021/12/sisterhood-of-rose-interview-with-cobra-divine-intervention-activation.html

轉貼自：https://www.pfcchina.org/cobraft/57662.html